Anybody tried Soundcraft? Vibe-coded DAW. In Rust (of course)

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There is a whole bunch of vibe-coded clones of creativity applications under the umbrella of "ArtCraft". They also have clones of all the Adobe products.

The music component is a Pro Tools clone named SoundCraft.
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GitHub - storytold/soundcraft: An open-source, clean-room reimplementation of Avid Pro Tools in pure Rust

An open-source, clean-room reimplementation of Avid Pro Tools in pure Rust - storytold/soundcraft
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There is no port for it (yet), but they provide FreeBSD binaries for download. Did anyone try this yet? Can anyone compare to Pro Tools?

Here is a video about the Adobe clones:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doHqV2t26KU
 
You can't copy a software without understanding their purposes. I deal with Adobe suite on a daily basis, their worthness reside in their offset printing capabilities that are well buried into a stratification of non-sense, and only people that still print design know about them. If you copy-cat adobe ignoring the only reason why they have still a value, you're only recreating a facade... 🤔
 
I remember reading at least 4 months a go a company doing ports from opensouce (say GPL, AGPL) to closed source with clean room implementations to liberate your company from opensource...

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If it's a direct clone of soundcraft and / or adobe's GUI's, if it looks and feels exactly same in use, it sounds like it might be breaking all kinds of GUI or UX copyright and probably patents, they put a lot of work into designing their products, it's their IP.
 
blackbird9 said:
If it's a direct clone of soundcraft and / or adobe's GUI's, if it looks and feels exactly same in use, it sounds like it might be breaking all kinds of GUI or UX copyright and probably patents, they put a lot of work into designing their products, it's their IP.
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So far look and feel hasn't been copyrightable.

Patents are a different matter.
 
bakul said:
Remains to be seen if these "clean room" reverse engineered apps will/can evolve into full-fledged bug-for-bug compatible versions (or if companies like adobe will shut them down)...
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How is anyone ever going to make a living from software? As soon as you invent some cool new program, write it and put it on the market, some scumbag will come along and clone it with AI, and all the effort you put in to create it is down the drain. It's not much different from software piracy.
 
Not sure about this one but the similar clones of Photoshop have ONLY the look and feel, not actual full functionality + a lot of bugs.
Literal vibecoded slop i.e. eyecandy. Given the marketing push I suspect cryptostealer or IP lawyer firm psyop.
 
Competent programmers with enough experience can replicate work using a fraction of the original effort. See for instance https://github.com/ingelibre/ingetrazo -- a program quite similar to Sketchup (& can read/write Sketchup files).

My guess is that people will try to change the law to allow look and feel copyright... If the techbroligarchs will allow it!
 
blackbird9 said:
How is anyone ever going to make a living from software? As soon as you invent some cool new program, write it and put it on the market, some scumbag will come along and clone it with AI, and all the effort you put in to create it is down the drain. It's not much different from software piracy.
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It honestly doesn't matter if you make a verbatim copy or a clone of a program. The fact is that a clone can reproduce functionality that gives the same results as the original. And a verbatim copy can be shared with other users. The real issue with this software as a solution is that it is lacking fundamentally because of the type of software that it is. The maintenance schedule is, wait for company to release an update or version and clone it. And I personally have zero trust for the original software and the same goes for the clone. If people want to clone these programs and use the clones they will hopefully be happy doing so. For myself, both the clone and original are untrusted software.
 
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