The Final Showdown! (Please keep model comparisons to appropriate generation, for example don't compare an Amiga 500 to a TT030, or an 520ST to an Amiga 1200.
At some point I had a choice, spend ~ fl. 3000,- on an accelerator card for a platform that's been effectively dead for a couple of years, or spend that money on a PC build. Spent it on a PC, a Pentium II - 350MHz, with a much, much faster and better graphics card. That was the system I installed FreeBSD onSadly, they never did pull off the switch to the PowerPC correctly.
AFAIK, Atari had lent $500K to the Amiga Corporation, but that was before Tramiel was ousted from Commodore and bought Atari. His son found out about that debt which was due at the end of June '84, and they tried to buy Amiga, but Commodore wanted to "stick it" to Tramiel for taking bunch of Commodore engineers with him to Atari and bought Amiga in August for $27M, including paying off the loan from Atari. As they say, the rest is history.Interestingly, both the ST and the Amiga share one person - Jack Tramiel. The rivals were indeed brothers, and I would like to say that this is why they got ahead, each one pushing the other.
Near the end I started looking for alternatives and had found NetBSD. Unfortunately my 4000/030 has a 68EC030, which lacked the MMU required to run NetBSDBoth were, at times, running NetBSD/68k
Have looked at it a couple of times over the years but never actually installed it on anything. Nowadays I mostly get my Amiga kicks from emulators/fs-uae and Cloanto's Amiga Forever.SirDice Have you tried AROS on some more recent hardware?
The Amiga 500 was clearly the superior machine; better graphics which was obvious when a game was compared to the same game on the ST, Deluxe Paint, and true multitasking as already mentioned somewhere in this thread. It also had an early virus which was harmless and simply displayed a message saying something like "Something wonderful has happened, your Amiga has been infected with a virus!" It would also attempt to replicate itself on any diskette that was inserted. Its presence was easily detected (at least in 68000 assembler) by checking if any memory had been occupied when a diskette was inserted after a clean boot.Yeah, flamewar!
AmigaOS had pre-emptive multitasking 10 years before Windows got it.I had the ST. Both ST and Amiga were glorified gaming consoles and (kind of) sucked at (nearly) everything else no matter what the hardcore fans will tell you.
Thats why their higher end / expensive models failed miserably in the market place (no business value in them).
nintendo and sega defeated the cheaper models and ibm/compaq/clones wiped out the rest. they would be as dead with powerpc as well.
Had plenty of not-so-harmless viruses too. At some point I got so fed up with it I wrote my own virusscanner that was able to detect and remove 5 different viruses. A few I still remember "Lamer Exterminator" (survived a reset and 'encrypted' its payload, it randomly overwrote sectors with "Lamer Exterminator" repeatedly), "Byte Bandit", and one that hooked into the Amiga's disk.library (that one was a pain).It also had an early virus which was harmless
The Amiga had Video Toaster and could edit video in real time. The A3000UX ran SysV. Now let's compare that to the NES. It ran games that were much less graphically advanced compared to the A500, and that's all it did.so you could run invaders and pacman at the same time ?
That's true, but only if we are talking about consumer versions of Windows. Windows NT 3.1 was released in mid '93, so that's 8 years, and if consider other PC OSes, OS2/ in '87 so only two years later and Concurrent DOS in '84 so a whole year before Amiga.AmigaOS had pre-emptive multitasking 10 years before Windows got it.
It's just an example. Why are you so angry about this? Are you envious of 4096-color Amiga OCS HAM because you only have 4-color CGA? Boohoo.amiga 3000x sold about 10 units and was dead. nobody cared about it
IDK about US, but in European markets number of professional ST users (mostly musicians and DTP) was much, much higher than pro Amiga users. True, Amiga had superior color graphics, but that was important only to gamers (and that only after A500). Only pro Amiga users over here (that I know of) were Toaster folks, but there was not so many of them. So, from the ROI POV, ST was much better choice.The Amiga 500 was clearly the superior machine; better graphics which was obvious when a game was compared to the same game on the ST, Deluxe Paint, and true multitasking as already mentioned somewhere in this thread. It also had an early virus which was harmless and simply displayed a message saying something like "Something wonderful has happened, your Amiga has been infected with a virus!" It would also attempt to replicate itself on any diskette that was inserted. Its presence was easily detected (at least in 68000 assembler) by checking if any memory had been occupied when a diskette was inserted after a clean boot.
Sure, the ST had MS-DOS compatible diskettes, but why would anyone want that? OK, the ST had a MIDI interface too which was useful to musicians, but that is not nearly as useful as a graphics workstation is to all the artists out there. The ST was just the cheaper of the two, and you got what you paid for.
Intended use of A4000: Workstationim not angry at all. its just annoying when the die hards tell you how great the amiga was nearly onyx workstation and such bs. they would not even exist if it wasn't for video games. if they shipped without a keyboard just with a joystick the sales would have been probably about the same preemptive multitasking or not