Shell A script to install the latest version of claude code without using the linuxulator.

[NapoleonWils0n]

Cheers mate,
and mentioned in the same sentence as vermaden who does great work

The key word you mentioned is knowledge

And that only comes from reading the man pages
and understanding how things work

 

[ZioMario]

Cheers mate,
and mentioned in the same sentence as vermaden who does great work

The key word you mentioned is knowledge

And that only comes from reading the man pages
and understanding how things work

Bro,

I play with different Operatying systems since 1994. I'm not a coder,but I have a discrete level of (indirect ?) knowledge and a decent method of work. If this was not true,I could not be able to complete complicated project like qemu + bhyve the freebsd based phone that I'm completing :

and many others. My indirect knowledge is completed by AI. What I don't understand now I ask it to AI instead of the man pages. Its easier for me. What's wrong is to think that AI makes everything. That's false. I put a lot of the resources that I have in my projects. If there are no resources,you can't make interesting projects. I think that everyone should have the freedom to work as he wants,without being treated like a pauper. What matters is the result and the ability to question yourself. What you don't know, you ask and then you try. If I have to be as pedantic,arrogant and not cooperative as some expert programmers, I'd rather stay as I am now.

 

[NapoleonWils0n]

Man pages dont hallunciate thats one advantage
the other is by reading the man pages you create a mental database

But whatever you find works for you

Looking at your claude script
Using a Makefile would offer several advantages

Make

make is designed to build software like a recipe
and could be used to check the current version compared to the new version

then only run if there is a newer version of the software to install
and you can easily uninstall everything by running make clean

might be worth asking claude to try and convert you script into a Makefile
and see what it comes up with

 

[ZioMario]

Man pages dont hallunciate thats one advantage

I think that today AI hallucinate less than before. And there are strategies that can be implemented to discover if it is allucinating. Ask and compare replies often. Anyway,the advantages tthat they give are superior than the problems. I also think that who dislikes AI often says that they hallucinate to devalue AI and lead the interlocutor to believe it's better to read man pages and learn to program. But really today programmers can't compete with the quality and consistency of code written by an AI. And that's hard for them to stomach.

 

[eternal_noob]

But really today programmers can't compete with the quality and consistency of code written by an AI.

Oh my... Programmers need to fix AI slop all the time.

You're massively overestimating AI.

 

[ZioMario]

You're massively overestimating AI.

I talk by experience. I use it everyday and I see what I'm able to do or not. I see the difficulties,strategies,and so on. I see concrete projects which work. I don't have any convenience to overestimating something that does not work. I have dozen of working projects ready on my disk. Basically I can do almost everything I want. I'm happy with it.

 

[eternal_noob]

You're not a programmer, you're a consumer. If you were a programmer, you'd know that AI can't replace programmers (yet).

 

[ZioMario]

You're not a programmer, you're a consumer. If you were a programmer, you'd know that AI can't replace programmers.

I didn't say that. I said that the quality of the code is good and it produces code faster than a programmer can do. A senior programmer needs time that usually don't have and for him it does not have make sense to look inside the code produced by an AI looking for the bugs line by line. He does not have time and the quality is good that it is a wasting of time. I think that actually it has more sense to split the assignments. Programmers can give to AI the directions,how it should implement the code,which tools should be used and so on. And the AI writes the raw code. So,there still be a space for the programmer to exist.

 

[NapoleonWils0n]

Ask and compare replies often.

Thats my point you have to compare the response
to the actual documentation

And if you dont read the documentation you wont know its incorrect

it does not have make sense to look inside the code produced by an AI looking for the bugs

You have to review the code so you understand it and how it works
If you dont then you cant fix it when something goes wrong

Programmers can give to AI the directions,how it should implement the code,which tools should be used and so on. And the AI writes the raw code.

Thats vibe coding not programming

 

[drhowarddrfine]

And that only comes from reading the man pages

When I first started out, I would go through /bin and /usr/bin and read all the man pages to learn how they all worked or at least what they were for. When I hired someone new, it was required reading.

 

[NapoleonWils0n]

spoken like a true nerd

read it before you run it

always read the man page for a command
before you run it

its why i always type out commands manually
instead of copying and pasting

so you get the muscle memory and can remember the options