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Explain? Why? Just out of curiosity.Strange thing. This survey makes me feel like I am all at the wrong place.
There are probably some people who have that many FreeBSD installations at work. However, they would be smart enough to not speak in public for their employer, unless explicitly authorized. I would also think that the foundation would know about those large users, and would be in close contact with them.17. At home, I have approximately the following number of FreeBSD installations:
Option >10000
...be in close contact with them.
Explain? Why? Just out of curiosity?
You are at least half correct, perhaps three quarters. Some of the survey takes about home (or hobby) use, and a lot about business use. I answered the survey, but only the parts about home/hobby use. While I work with lots of computers at work (and have for the last 25+ years), I don't feel comfortable speaking on behalf of my current employer, so I did not answer questions regarding by use of computers at work.The survey seems to imply a kind of, lets say, "business use"; it implies that one has an "employer" or a "business".
BTDT; about 2 years ago, I retired (quite early) from computer company A, took about a year off (not being employed), then went back to work at computer company B.What about retirees, what about people suffering unemployment?
I have worked at some of the largest computer companies in the last 25 years, and my experience is very different. Sure, everyone hates computers for 30 seconds at a time. Matter-of-fact, that's one of the things I tend to mutter into the room when something is broken again (and it always is, doing R&D and software development is mostly the task of making good ideas be non-broken in their implementation). But I find that my colleagues are passionate about what they do. While they all program in the languages that are needed at the moment, they all have strong opinions on what a better programming language would be. They all like and dislike OSes, for good reasons (and no two ever agree on their preferences or their weighting of reasons). For example, in the last ~15 years I have professionally mostly used Linux, with some AIX and HP-UX thrown in, and I personally don't like any of these OSes. If I had my choice, I would do server development and deployment on *BSD (OpenBSD or FreeBSD, in that order), and desktop/UI development and use on MacOS. But I don't have my choice; I'm a professional, so I do what the majority of my colleagues need to do.But then, concerning business - when I had a job (at a computer company) I found that these people simply hate computers. Nobody would be interested in what kind of operating system one would use (that was just a label tag to be passed on unreflected: it's this OS, so we need to quarrel with that company); ...
I have used Windows as a desktop OS for about 10 years (at work), and it is perfectly functional. Personally, I find it very annoying, but I respect its advantages for mass-production corporate desktop use. I try to minimize my use of it; at home I'm about 99% successful (occasionally, I still need to boot Windows, sadly), at work about 70%.No, employers don't give a damn about which OS to use - if anything at all they want to use Windows, for whatever reasons I don't want to understand.
I still don't know who you mean by Kirk and Eric ...So, when I came home from work and could sit at my FreeBSD, that was recreation: finally to handle the real thing: a proper computer, built by those great and admirable people like Kirk&Eric!
Yes and no. Many good ideas have been taking from Unix and BSD. And many bad ideas that started in Unix and BSD have also been rejected. And Unix in particular took many good ideas from its predecessors, in particular Multics (even the name Unix is a parody of Multics). So "almost all of them" is a vast exaggeration. But where I agree: Both the Bell Labs and the Berkeley systems research groups greatly pushed the state of the art forward.... how much of the currently running installations are in one way or another copied from what was initially created in that garret at Bell's and then refined at Berkeley? I'd suppose: almost all of them. And who is conscious about that? Almost nobody.
Definitely agree. Also, it would be wonderful if commercial users of FreeBSD would donate more generously. Alas, that's not the world we live in.Developers should not starve.
So we can wish the core team much success .
Hi sparrings partner(What about retirees, what about people suffering unemployment?)
17. At home, I have approximately the following number of FreeBSD installations:Online Survey Software: Closed Survey
This survey is currently closed. Please contact the author of this survey for further assistance.www.research.net
Option >10000
There are probably some people who have that many FreeBSD installations at work. However, they would be smart enough to not speak in public for their employer, unless explicitly authorized. I would also think that the foundation would know about those large users, and would be in close contact with them.
I felt guilty at 6-19 (Seemed like a strange range of numbers in survey)I have approximately the following number of FreeBSD installations:
As long as you do not end up in jail yourself, that's a good value for an attack, so the option should be extended to > 60000I've had hit someone running with 60K jails for research purposes (at home). Also, just for the matter of curiosity, some associates of a IRC fellow have mainframes at home for fun...
You never know what people do at home!
yes, I realize that too, e.g. :...It was a good question.... It made me think..
e.g those associates could spend some Tier2(sparc64 etc.)- VMs for FreeBSD-developers...Also, just for the matter of curiosity, some associates of a IRC fellow have mainframes at home for fun...
AWS recently supported Risc-V for FreeRTOS, so your RiSC-V thing should be addressed for FreeBSD.I did notice RISC-V as a question choice for other platform support. That space might go somewhere soon.
You are at least half correct, perhaps three quarters. Some of the survey takes about home (or hobby) use, and a lot about business use. I answered the survey, but only the parts about home/hobby use.
I have worked at some of the largest computer companies in the last 25 years, and my experience is very different. Sure, everyone hates computers for 30 seconds at a time. Matter-of-fact, that's one of the things I tend to mutter into the room when something is broken again (and it always is, doing R&D and software development is mostly the task of making good ideas be non-broken in their implementation). But I find that my colleagues are passionate about what they do. While they all program in the languages that are needed at the moment, they all have strong opinions on what a better programming language would be.
Where you are right: Corporations don't care about which OS to use. At the very basic level, they simply care about making money. Which not only makes perfect sense, it is even logical and the law: investors give money to corporations, with the expectation that the officers of the corporations will use the investment for the highest possible return.
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This looks exactly like the Mao way to let the people speak in china during the cultural revolution .
I still don't know who you mean by Kirk and Eric ...
I think OP is referring to Kirk McKusick and his partner Eric Allman.
Remembering the survey I asked her what had happened to it. Her response astounded me. She told me that they had not had enough time to go through the survey responses as there were too many of them.
Yes this was it here:put out a survey once before in 2016 (I think)