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takeda

There probably is a good reason for it, but I am drawing blank trying to understand it.

Basically, why there's an effort to set python3.13 as a default version (https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=292105) when there's already 3.15.0 released? Why not skip 3.13 and go to 3.14 or even 3.15 as since the effort takes time, by the time it is finished 3.15 will already have several releases. 3.13 has already stopped providing bugfixes, so we setting up default version that it is already in a maintenance mode.

I understand there were complications with 3.11 -> 3.12 which added a lot of delay to get 3.12, but why not catch up now and skip a version or two?
 
Ok that's a valid concern regarding 3.15 especially since it was released few days ago, but what about 3.14?

I think all packages would be updated by now to work with 3.14, the 3.14.0 was released a year ago so by now all maintained packages should be updated.
 
takeda said:
Ok that's a valid concern regarding 3.15 especially since it was released few days ago, but what about 3.14?

I think all packages would be updated by now to work with 3.14, the 3.14.0 was released a year ago so by now all maintained packages should be updated.
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I don't think they are. But I'm not on the Python team.
 
I found a site that seems to be tracking compatibility: http://pyreadiness.org/3.14/

Note that this is not accurate and only goes by the metadata specified in package, but I went through the top 120 and some on top 120-240 and the ones that are not marked as supported are either python independent or actually do have wheels even for version 3.15, the only exception I found was psexec which had wheel for 3.14.
 
5541 wow that's a lot. But going through them will be the same effort whether it is 3.13 or 3.14. Most packages are plain python code which should work with any python version without modification. And python community is generally very quick to update them (most of the time it is just generating wheels for new version if the package has some binaries).
Python 3.14 was released a year ago and has 11 months left until it stops being maintained (except for security bugfixes only). The python 3.13 that work is currently being done already stop receiving bugfixes. If there are packages that no longer work with it, they are not maintained and probably should be removed from ports too.
I also remember that in the past FreeBSD ports' default version was closer to latest version than right now.
 
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