Important persons in your country.

... still adding to and sorting the list. An awful lot of people, but I'm not sure who really belongs (like Friedrich 2, who was Prussian, thus not German. Or was he? Introduced the potatoe to the masses by banning it) Carl von Linde (Refrigerator, keeping medicines available all around the world) surely counts, Gauss, Bismark, ... does Varus count? Of course Bertha Benz, Siemens & Halske, Konrad Zuse, Euler, ...
What about the most famous German of all time ;)

I guess he doesn't count because he was Austrian...
 
Alexander Nevsky - Wikipedia

Dmitry Donskoy - Wikipedia

Mikhail Skopin-Shuisky - Wikipedia

Kuzma Minin - Wikipedia

Dmitry Pozharsky - Wikipedia

Peter the Great - Wikipedia

Catherine the Great - Wikipedia

Alexander Suvorov - Wikipedia

Mikhail Kutuzov - Wikipedia

Vladimir Lenin - Wikipedia

Mikhail Frunze - Wikipedia

Semyon Budyonny - Wikipedia

Joseph Stalin - Wikipedia

Georgy Zhukov - Wikipedia

Konstantin Rokossovsky - Wikipedia

Ivan Konev - Wikipedia

Igor Kurchatov - Wikipedia

Sergei Korolev - Wikipedia

Edit: Important people added, unimportant ones removed
 
I'm from the US, so of course, my knowledge of European history just covers basics. I did know the painter was Austrian, though Crivens, I first read your post as Mozart being Australian, which conjured up an interesting mental picture of Requiem Mass being sung with a heavy Australian accent. Or Rock Me Amadeus being done with the same. (And just found out that Falco was Austrian, not German).
 
For Alain: I always think that Saint Damien of Molokai definitely qualifies as "De Grootste Belg". Whenever we visit Hawaii (we do that somewhat regularly, still have lots of friends there), I make it a point to visit his statue next to the State Capitol. And I'm completely not religious, and not even from a catholic family.

For Beastie: In my opinion, Adolphe Sax' greatest invention is actually the tuba. It is a contrabass or bass saxhorn. Did you know that the Flugelhorn (another great-sounding piece of brass) is actually a soprano tuba?

An awful lot of people, but I'm not sure who really belongs
That is a difficult question. The person who was most influential? I'd like to remind people that Hitler was Time Magazine's "man of the year" in 1938. At the same time, Churchill was deeply in the dog house.

like Friedrich 2, who was Prussian, thus not German.
Ah, a very fine flute player, great composer, and one of the most enlightened of all monarchs ever. Yet nearly got killed by his father (and predecessor), because of some "irregularities" in his sex life.

But one indeed wonders what it means to be "German", and whether Bavarians, Prussians and Friesians really qualify. Austrians? Right out! (sarcasm)

Today I learned that the Bavarian-language Wikipedia (there is such a thing!) caters to people in Bavaria, Austria, and South Tirol. Which is funny, because South Tirolians are also Italians. Or perhaps they aren't. Anyway they are funny. Famous quote: "Die Tiroler sind lustig..."

does Varus count?
Another good question. He was educated, a fine general (who made on big and bad decision), he had made Germany his adopted home, administered it well, he had the good taste and decency to react correctly to losing the battle. He should be a honorary German.

Was Hermann (a.k.a. Armin)? He was Cheruskian, not German. But to Germans he was long considered a hero. Along the same lines: Emperor Claudius (best known for his very pretty wife Messalina, she stars in many bad movies) was actually French, while General Germanicus (brother of Claudius, father of Caligula, also depicted in even worse movies) was actually Italian inspite of his name.

Of course Bertha Benz, Siemens & Halske, Konrad Zuse, Euler, ...
How about Einstein? Was he German? This is a politically and emotionally loaded question, which is hard to discuss, and harder to answer correctly.

I just looked it up: The greatest Californian is supposed to be John Muir, a naturalist who created the National Park movement. Not a totally bad choice. But I wouldn't have thought of him first.
 
I wouldn't have thought of Muir first, either, (though I was thinking USA, not just CA). And no, I never realized the flugle horn is a tuba--I always though of it as a sort of trumpet, or maybe French horn. I think it was used in the Who's Tommy, though when I saw them perform it at Fillmore East in the 60's (I should've given that a humble-brag tag), they didn't use it. Yes, a quick web search indicates that they did use a flugel horn in it. (Hrm, maybe Entwistle did play it in the concert, we're talking over 50 years ago. I just remember my dad asking who we were going to see and answering yeah, and thinking how cool we were with our jokes. (Then he got annoyed and I explained that the band was called The Who).
 
Maybe we should do away with countries
No politics in the Forum, please. Without countries we can't have the Olympics and we can't see team USA lose at basketball against Argentina or Serbia, which is one of the little pleasures in life (the Spanish national team had some thrilling games against the USA, but it always lost, ultimately; now our team is not as good as in Paul Gasol's epoch, but it's still my favorite sports team). Probably you couldn't care less about sports, but this is not about you. It's about me.
 
Was Hermann (a.k.a. Armin)? He was Cheruskian, not German.
Not so simple. The question is, if there were Germans in the year 0 or only Germanic tribes, mainly divided in:

Rhein-Weser Germanenen (eg. Franken),
Nordsee-Germanen (eg. Frisians, Saxons, Angels),
Elb-Germanen (the wildest according to the Romans),
Nord-Germanen (eg. Scandinavians),
Ost-Germanebn (eg. Gotes, Vandals, etc).

The Cheruskians belonged to the first group, and modern German language derive from the first three groups, modern Germans mainly mixture of Germanic, Keltic, Slavic peoples and who knows what more.
 
How about Einstein? Was he German? This is a politically and emotionally loaded question, which is hard to discuss, and harder to answer correctly.
Ethnically, he was Ashkenazi. Are Ashkenazis Germans? In my opinon yes. The word Ashkenas is used in jiddisch daitsch to call Germany.

But one could consider it as a separate ethnicity from central / east Europe that spoke a German dialect and had mainly Jewish religion. Probably a mixture of Germans and Slaves.

The genocide of the Nazis aimed to destroy this ethnicity, that unaccurately called it "the Jews".

Since Zionism wanted to force a colony in the middle east, they were happy with this confusion that constructed a Jewish people from peoples of very different ethnicities only based on religion.
 
Vint Cerf and Bill Joy.

Co-creator of the original TCP/IP protocol suite. Which was later modeled on BSD Unix through a collaboration with Bill Joy.

To some he's (Vint Cerf) the renowned "Architect of the Matrix". He even looks quite similar to the character in the movie too. Reality can be strange sometimes.

Without these gentlemen; the internet wouldn't have existed as we see it. And I'm wholly grateful for it.
 
I'm still using Bill Joy's editor, and Vint Cerf's TCP/IP, pretty much every single day. An excellent choice, Beastie!
I think we have to add Ken Thompson, Brian Kernighan and Dennis Ritchie, and probably a bunch of other bell labs guys, to that list too.



And the people who invented the transistor... TTL logic... linear pioneers like Bob Widlar and Bob Pease at NatSemi, and a couple of my own personal choices would be a special mention for the designers of the Z80, namely Frederico Faggin, Masatoshi Shima and Ralph Ungemann; and we must also include Lewis C Eggebrecht, who worked on the design of the IBM PC at IBM, which AFAIK is the only deliberately open-architecture project that IBM has ever done.

There's a great article (one of many) on Z80 history here:-

Eggebrecht's book on the PC is still worth tracking down, if you can find a copy.

(Of course they're not strictly from my country England, but UK and US are joined at the hip anyway IMHO, I don't care what anyone says. 😁)
 
Interesting, I haven't tried nvim-qt. I still use terminal vim. So another very important person who is sadly no longer with us was the great Bram Moolenaar, another great dutchman, who picked up the job of keeping vi alive over the decades, and he clearly did it for love rather than money. A true hacker, he definitely deserves a mention. Taken from us too young, sadly.

Well, Bram wasn't from England either, so I'd better stop there. 😂
 
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