RAMageddon!!

I ordered a high end nvidia card but decided I didn't need it right now so I returned it. I might regret that decision.
I honestly think there may come a world wide economic collapse fairly soon.
 
Scary thought. Let's hope not. Still, there is this:-

How many Earths? How many countries? - Earth Overshoot Day

overshoot.footprintnetwork.org overshoot.footprintnetwork.org
and this
www.theguardian.com

Collapse of critical Atlantic current is no longer low-likelihood, study finds

Scientists say ‘shocking’ discovery shows rapid cuts in carbon emissions are needed to avoid catastrophic fallout
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
and this
thebulletin.org

Doomsday Clock - Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists

It is 85 seconds to midnight.
thebulletin.org thebulletin.org
Well, we'd better not start down that path of discussion, it's all a bit depressing. There is only so much we can do.
 
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I've forced to purchase mini PC last November (near December) as my ThinkPad P52 was approaching to its death (keyboard was incrementally broken and no spare parts is available! And started to behave unstabully, still not always, though, but a bad sign).
No notebooks matching my requirements found (having Turing or later NVIDIA dGPU and can completely disable iGPU via UEFI firmware config).

I already had spare 4TB NVMe SSD and just purchased 64GB DDR5-5600 SO-DIMM for another mini PC (Minisforum AI X1 Pro, forced to use Windows for $WORK) as planned (future) upgrade on early November at the moment.

So I decided to purchase bare-bone model of Minisforum MS-01 (12th gen Core i9-12900H, avoiding terrible 13th gen) and NVIDIA RTX A400 (old but still available, half height and half length, and no need for external power cable!) using the spare SSD and SO-DIMM.

After MS-01 came in hand, the price of the same SO-DIMM was doubled!
And the same SSD was near 1.5x the price compared with when I've purchased it several months before that.

I cannot purchase another sets of stock now. Tooo expensive!
If I made decision 1 week later, I'll forced to resign for next few years and look for used keyboard for P52.

Anyway, I can keep on maintaining NVIDIA GPU driver ports even after they switch their Production Branch to 590 or later series that drops pre-Turing archs.
 
Yes, chip prices are going up everywhere. But I don't buy new. I buy everything used. It suits me. I'm tired of working for their yachts and villas. I don't see the point in even having more than 16GB of RAM in my PC. The integrated graphics card is enough for me. I don't play around with PCs. For me, my PC is a testing ground, a test bed, a workhorse. I don't even really need YouTube Full HD (1080p60). I'm happy to watch the Saxon 1982 live concert in 720p. And the news in 480p.
 
Maybe used RAMs would dissappear soonish from markets unless this catastrophic situation finishes shortly.

And note that used SSDs wouldn't be good choices, as how the specific one is worned out is usually not being disclosed. Too bad gamble. Also, evil person can leave malwares left in it.
 
Probably anything older than DDR4 won't be usable in modern systems... unless they make bus-level adapters, and even then the speed specifications and capacities will be wrong.
Used SSD's should have some indication of wear level in the SMART attribute tables... but protection against malware is another problem.
 
USerID said:
Yes, chip prices are going up everywhere. But I don't buy new. I buy everything used. It suits me. I'm tired of working for their yachts and villas. I don't see the point in even having more than 16GB of RAM in my PC. The integrated graphics card is enough for me. I don't play around with PCs. For me, my PC is a testing ground, a test bed, a workhorse. I don't even really need YouTube Full HD (1080p60). I'm happy to watch the Saxon 1982 live concert in 720p. And the news in 480p.
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Saxon! ... haven't heard their name for a while 😁
 
T-Aoki said:
Maybe used RAMs would dissappear soonish from markets unless this catastrophic situation finishes shortly.
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We're stable in this regard. Believe me, we're still a long way from running out of used hardware. Ukraine has always had a ton of good-quality hardware at low prices. Today, 14-year-olds are throwing some pretty decent hardware on the market. Kids are good fodder for ghouls like me. :))) They play games, they need 1000-1500W power supplies, they need 128GB of RAM, they need super-high-end monitors and keyboards. Recently, some kid sold his 2021 system unit for half the price. And that was back in the day. A true gaming machine. Yes, it's worn out, but it'll definitely last another 7-8 years. I've never seen a shortage of used hardware in my life. Even with all the crises and defaults, I can still find good used hardware.
T-Aoki said:
And note that used SSDs wouldn't be good choices, as how the specific one is worned out is usually not being disclosed. Too bad gamble. Also, evil person can leave malwares left in it.
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Yes, that's true. But the same SSDs aren't used in kids' drives for more than two or three years. They need new, fancy slot modules and a powerful Windows 11, which boots 7 seconds faster on new modules. :)
Regarding malwares, you can still reset it. Isn't it? :) There are several ways, and there's no malwares.

And young gamers don't have time to change hardware modifications via firmware, much less push anal probes. But Windows and MacOS already have plenty of them built in.
 
I got a 'Pripyat' geiger counter through ebay from Ukraine, maybe 10 years ago... one of these. It's got 2 SBM20 G-M tubes internally, and is actually quite sophisticated for its age. My one still works, although it's undoubtedly out of calibration by now. The one I really wanted was a Mazur PRM-9000, with the pancake tube... but western gear is way too expensive for a hobby... for me, anyway!
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blackbird9 said:
Used SSD's should have some indication of wear level in the SMART attribute tables
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The problem is that the info are usually not regally forced to disclose to sell, thus, purchasing one, check SMART, finding that it's almost worned out could be possible.

Not enough skilled shops (usually sells cheaper) only checks for SSDs (in many cases, used for Windows system drive) can boot or not, without confirming SMART nor NVMe log pages. So a gamble. No data before purchasing.

And as far as I could "directly" see with my physical eyeballs at shops around, cheap used parts were sold out before now-too-expensive brand-new ones does at especially for DDR4 / DDR5 generations of RAMs last December.
 
USerID said:
Regarding malwares, you can still reset it. Isn't it?
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I want dedicated equipment to initialize NVMe SSDs (before connecting to any of computers that can do anything except zero'ing out data parts and initializing partition table) not to take risks that UEFI firmware is polluted.
 
We have to pray for Chinese memory but i think it will be scalped or same pricing.
Im happy that i got my pc before RAMagedon ( 120 Euros, now its 400+ euros for 32GB 7200 ).
As a FreeBSD user - i really dont care about pc pricing once i got my pc as it will last me for a while ( i updated my pc after 8 or 9 years ) so im cool and as i LLM user - i think ill be getting only 3090s and still at reasonable price and no 12whpr melting :D
 
I feel very fortunate that I bought my current desktop a year or two ago before the RAM prices started to sky rocket. I was able to completely fill out it's RAM capacity with 32gb of RAM. Granted, it's DDR4, but I probably should sell the original module that I replaced in doing so.
 
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