How realistic are my goals?

I'm know in my mid-sixties, retired, my wife has stage three cancer, and things aren't looking so great for her right now.

Based upon the above circumstances, I decided to duck into our spare bedroom on weekends, and to experiment with FreeBSD in order to take my mind off of other things (better than drinking and smoking I guess). Now that I've been sitting here, installing packages, for a few days I know realize that my pension and my Social Security aren't going to be enough, and I probably should think about going back to work.

Now, I don't really have a background in computers, I mainly worked in manufacturing before I retired, but I'm wondering if I could become some sort of junior systems administrator? From the information I've found online, it looks like I would have to obtain a bachelor's degree, and that might take an entire four years, which might be an impossibility at this stage in my life.

Well, any information is welcome. Looks like the weekend is over, and now it is time for me to go back to arguing with my wife's insurance company.
 
I decided to duck into our spare bedroom on weekends, and to experiment with FreeBSD in order to take my mind off of other things (better than drinking and smoking I guess).
FreeBSD's been fun for me as kind-of a distraction; a couple days ago I had nothing going on at night and figured I'd play some Diablo 3, but went to update a FreeBSD conf note on my server, and after a little Blueberry Yum I got into a few hours of updating several website confs creatively (ended up more fun than D3 and productive :p)

Now, I don't really have a background in computers, I mainly worked in manufacturing before I retired, but I'm wondering if I could become some sort of junior systems administrator? From the information I've found online, it looks like I would have to obtain a bachelor's degree, and that might take an entire four years, which might be an impossibility at this stage in my life.
I'm thinking without a degree, you might have to show your skills to employers in a different manner?

I don't have a degree, but hosted a wiki for almost 10 years with the hopes it'd serve as proof that I know what I'm doing without college or related work history (like a portfolio?). I'm thinking the idea's good, but feel my resume needs to present unique experience more (I haven't read resume guides but general ones online present multiple work history easily allowing detailing a unique experience); learning and improving over-time all this time was more fun than making a serious resume and putting myself out there, which hasn't landed me employment yet, but I'm a pretty good sysadmin if I say so myself :p
 
How FreeBSD? If you have basic scripting/coding skills, maybe create your own platform, like an outconfigured graphical FreeBSD install that's reproducible and a bit universal for amd64-hardware. This is what I did more or less but it still took a lot of time. I now regularly create user-interfaces with specific demands for 1 purpose. It's based on my own non-public 'distribution' and SDL as pretty primitive graphical touch-interface. I have no computer-related education. We did Gwbasic and Lotus123 at school. I figured out Turbo Pascal myself later. 😁
 
[Opinion] May be easier to get a non computer related job.... A young relative (in his 20s) is becoming an electrician in spite of being a wiz programmer. Or may be use your computer skills in 3D printing or manufacturing related job? One idea is to see if you can make an app that can help your previous colleagues with their manufacturing related job (based on what you wished you had when you were working!).

I suspect the AI threat is real for many white collar jobs.... Ideally you want to get in a job where using AI can help you a lot but AI can't take over your job.
 
Now, I don't really have a background in computers, I mainly worked in manufacturing before I retired,

At the moment I will assume you are posting from somewhere in States.

The CEO of Ford Motor company just said there is a GREAT shortage of people that understand manufacturing jobs here in States. Link here: So you (might?) be looking at the right time. There is (A LOT) of computer work in US manufacturing jobs.
 
No matter what job you end up getting (as previous posters have stated, it seems that manufacturing is a good bet, given your experience and the circumstances of the US labor market), if you've found a spark of passion in FreeBSD, as it seems you have, I'd encourage you to keep learning about it and about technical stuff in general, and to visit this forum and post your questions and experiences because people here are pretty wholesome.
 
If you have any friends or acquaintances in IT, it may be as, or more useful than a degree. Most posted jobs ask for a degree,but if they like you, it can be overlooked, especially when you're older, and have experience. On the other hand, I haven't job hunted in years, and it is worse now than it was as far as finding real jobs as opposed to "ghost jobs" from what I hear. Many people say that the thing to do right now is find a good recruiter, but again, I'm going on hearsay. Linux is probably more marketable than FreeBSD, at least in the US.
 
Almost every good job I ever had I got through talking directly to someone in charge. Sometimes I'd fake the reason I was calling just to get through to personnel or the guy doing the hiring. It often works or at least they help point me in the right direction. In your case, you'll have to be honest about your abilities.

People will question how much you know, of course. Others will think you won't be around long enough to do them any good. But that might be an old school thought since no one seems to stick around for long nowadays anyway.

For example, twice I called a place that placed a "help wanted" ad somewhere for an engineer. I sent in my resume and waited but didn't hear back for a while. So I called Personnel and told them I had been out of town and was wondering if the position was still open. This got me an interview set up on the spot. Another time, I knew the Director of Engineering's name and called asking specifically for him. Got a short phone interview before being invited in.

High tech, High touch.

90% of success is just showing up. When I finished school, I wanted to go into broadcasting but everyone told me to forget that cause the good jobs required belonging to the union and the union wasn't hiring. It was hard to get into. Being me, I called anyway. By stroke of luck, the secretary--who would have told me to go away--went to the restroom and the Business Manager answered the phone. We had a pleasant conversation, I was invited to his house for dinner, and I was in.

After doing "permit work" for several years, I called one of the major TV stations for reasons I don't recall. Instead of the secretary answering the phone, the Chief Engineer did. Turns out, one of the guys had a heart attack and they didn't expect him to come back to work and would I be interested in working full-time.

Sometimes all you have to do is ask.

I've got more stories.

Going way off the rails, if you really just need something to do to keep your mind off things and also bring in some money, one of the guys who used to work for me started delivering for Amazon using his own car. It's called Amazon Flex. I know he made something over $50K US/year for the past couple of years but he does it full time. He works when he wants to work but he's also really beat up his car cause they send him out to every farm, village and town you can imagine. It's not for everyone, and I heard it's hard to get into now, but I thought I'd throw that out there.
 
While I'm not having to worry about an ill family member, my work situation is also dire. I've run successful R&D projects in the aerospace/defense industries, and even designed spacecraft systems that have successfully flown, yet I cannot find a permanent job at my (technical management) seniority/skill level. I'm approaching 60yo. While you'll never get an HR kronie to say it outright...I'm too expensive, too old, and too tied to traditional business values.
 
OP,
You will be competing (in America) with the horde of H1B contractors.

They are competent, cheap and indentured servants who cannot change jobs without going back to India and starting over.

Most are exempt in the computer business meaning they work sixty hours and get paid for forty. When an H1B is injured, there are 15 more in the waiting room to take his position.

I advise the young to avoid IT and be a plumber. AI will never take your job and they don’t outsource to India. You can pick and choose which jobs you take.
 
I don't want to pour cold water on the idea of trying to get into work in computing. However, things aren't that great in the industry right now. Have a read of this:-
Even youngsters are having a tough time finding work. That is a pretty accurate picture for the UK. Not helped by the UK government doing a trade deal with india last year, allowing 60000 indian IT workers to come here each year on 3-year visas, without paying national insurance tax; essentially that makes them 20% cheaper to employ than an equivalent local. https://www.thebridgechronicle.com/news/indian-it-workers-uk-social-security-exemption-fta-benefits

I have read there have been a lot of layoffs in the US too, although I am less familiar with the situation in the US, but a couple of friends in california have said it's quite tough at the moment.

My advice would be, think about how you can use the decades of manufacturing experience you already have, since that is your primary skills asset. If you've worked in manufacturing, are there no openings in that? Can you sell the skills and knowledge you already have? I'm just thinking of the kind of competition you're going to be up against at a job interview... with no experience and no proven track record in the computing field.

And for your poor wife... please don't give up hope. Stage 3 is not yet stage 4; there is still a good amount of hope. In fact even in stage 4 there is always some hope. Wish you both luck.
 
Another thought... can you combine your knowledge of manufacturing with your interest in computing? You may find for example that companies in related fields like process automation, robotics, instrumentation, metrology or embedded systems will value your existing engineering knowledge, if you can combine it with some knowledge of computing. Rather than going for a junior system admin type position, that doesn't make use of any your previous experience.

And for training... I wouldn't consider anything more than a 3 or 6 month course at this stage, or perhaps at a stretch a year at the very most, but only if you think it's really going to lead to something real in job terms. Not a 4-year bachelors degree, which is going to load you with a ton of debt, you'll be 4 years older at the end of it, and 4 years further away from having any recent work experience.
 
I'm thinking without a degree, you might have to show your skills to employers in a different manner?
Interesting, and perhaps more practical than trying to attend college at this point. Other than just tinkering with Linux and FreeBSD on my own, how could an average stay at home person, such as myself gain enough knowledge to impress an employer? Seems like an interesting path.

maybe create your own platform, like an outconfigured graphical FreeBSD install that's reproducible and a bit universal
Maybe not outside the realms of possiblity, but realistically, from my point of view, taking on a task like this is probably something like a year away, but not impossible. I do have experience creating if statements in Excel, but not much beyound that. I think that I might be able to do it, but not next week.

One idea is to see if you can make an app that can help your previous colleagues with their manufacturing related job (based on what you wished you had when you were working!).
Another instresting idea. Understanding why the application needs to be created may help me better understand the steps I'm taking in creating it, and maybe I can find someone who would want to use it.

At the moment I will assume you are posting from somewhere in States.

The CEO of Ford Motor company just said there is a GREAT shortage of people that understand manufacturing jobs here in States. Link here: So you (might?) be looking at the right time. There is (A LOT) of computer work in US manufacturing jobs.
Yes, I'm in the US, North Carolina to be exact. There is not a ton of heavy industry in my area, but there is some light industry and government facilities in my area.

if you've found a spark of passion in FreeBSD
I don't know why, but I'm absolutely fascinated by FreeBSD, and from my point of view, it reminds me of taking a complex four-barrell carburator, and then marveling at all of the engineering and workmanship that went into making that carburator work. Not to mention putting it back together, and still having it work properly. I was a little bit disapointed that I accidentally broke my installation of FreeBSD yesterday, by playing around with the nvidia driver, but I think that deep downside I was thrilled that I broke it, because next weekend I can figure out how to fix it, and maybe learn something in the process.

you have any friends or acquaintances in IT, it may be as, or more useful than a degree.
I do have a nephew.......Maybe I'll talk to him in the near future.

change your place to live to some other which allows you to have decent living on what you have as a pension.
I recently moved from California to North Carolina to make my retirement last longer. Not sure where else I could go, maybe North Dakota or Arkansas. Maybe I will do something along those lines, depending upon how things go.
RHCSA is probably quite doable. There are several good books avaialable. There's the Van Vugt and Ghori books. If you have FreeBSD, you can set up RH bhyve VMs quite easily, or use Rocky or Alma. Presently, I think the most current ones are for RHEL9.
There's also some helpful reddit threads about the exam.
Thank you, that is useful information.

Going way off the rails, if you really just need something to do to keep your mind off things and also bring in some money, one of the guys who used to work for me started delivering for Amazon using his own car. It's called Amazon Flex. I know he made something over $50K US/year for the past couple of years but he does it full time. He works when he wants to work but he's also really beat up his car cause they send him out to every farm, village and town you can imagine. It's not for everyone, and I heard it's hard to get into now, but I thought I'd throw that out there.
My neighbor did that, and he said that he wasn't breaking even after he factored in the expenses related to using his own car. However, I get what you're saying, it pays to be open minded, and if things get tight enough, I may do it.

I've run successful R&D projects in the aerospace/defense industries, and even designed spacecraft systems that have successfully flown, yet I cannot find a permanent job
Hmm...if you're having trouble, and it appears that you're a few years younger than me, with a lot more experience, then most likely to rethink my dreams.

it will also be more in-tune with what you are enjoying. Make the certification a way to give your mind a break from some of the stresses.
A bachelor's degree will be too generic to focus in on your actual interests.
Great sounding advice, and perhaps actually obtainable.

Not helped by the UK government doing a trade deal with india last year, allowing 60000 indian IT workers to come here each year on 3-year visas, without paying national insurance tax; essentially that makes them 20% cheaper to employ than an equivalent local.
Yeah, I don't see how this helps anyone born in the UK, but they are doing the same sort of thing in the US also without any regard to how it affects the economy. It's possible that I may just end up plugging away with FreeBSD on my own, without actually doing it as a job.

maybe look at repair?
What sort of repair?

And for training... I wouldn't consider anything more than a 3 or 6 month course at this stage, or perhaps at a stretch a year at the very most, but only if you think it's really going to lead to something real in job terms.
That seems like a reasonable possibility.
 
Thank you for the great advice everyone, it really gives me something to think about. Until my wife's health improves, I will probably have to stick with staying at home, and just continue to dabble into FreeBSD whenever I have some free time. However, once I feel that I have a somewhat realistic understanding of this operating system, then I will start to look into the above mentioned courses, as going back to college would be too much of a pain at this point. At anyrate, it will help prevent my brain from turning to mush, and beats watching television.
 
I accidentally broke my installation of FreeBSD yesterday, by playing around with the nvidia driver
Before doing anything, always do a zfs snapshot of everything. This way you will always be able to roll back no matter what and all will be well.

I use this script to make the snapshots. Study it. It may work for you as well.

Bash:
#!/bin/sh

# Require root privileges
if [ "$(id -u)" -ne 0 ]; then
  echo "This script must be run as root."
  exit 1
fi

# Require a comment
case "$#" in
  0)
    echo "Usage: $0 <Comment>"
    exit 1
    ;;
esac

# Determine current (invoking) username:
# - prefer SUDO_USER when running via sudo
# - fall back to real UID owner
USER_NAME=${SUDO_USER:-$(id -un)}
case "$USER_NAME" in
  "" ) echo "Cannot determine username." ; exit 1 ;;
esac

TS=$(date '+%Y%m%d_%H%M') || exit 1
SNAPSHOT_NAME="${TS}_$1"

zfs snapshot "zroot/ROOT/default@${SNAPSHOT_NAME}" || exit 1
zfs snapshot "zroot/home/${USER_NAME}@${SNAPSHOT_NAME}" || exit 1

echo "Snapshots created with name: ${SNAPSHOT_NAME}"

Some users may criticize that I snapshot home because they are less wise than me.

EDIT:

Okay, let's add a warning. Don't store your data in home, create a separate file system to store your data (e.g., I use ZROOT/data). This way, you can snapshop your home and you will not run out of space and, at the same time, you will be able to rollback the local config of many apps, which, contrary to popular belief, some times gives you a lot of grief if you cannot do.
 
Also, take this opportunity to reinstall. Don't let it go.
I always try to fix things before doing a fresh reinstall. If you always reinstall, then you don't learn anything. Right now my Xfce is broken, but I'm working on a plan to fix it, and I'm pretty certain that I will get it working later this week. Also, I will start using ZFS to make snapshots. However, if storing snapshots in Home isn't a good idea, will I have to create a new partition specifically dedicated to storing snapshots?
 
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