Upgrading to 15.0-RELEASE , the good, the bad, the ugly

free-and-bsd said:
Why doesn't anybody mention the fact, that after freebsd-update install & reboot you get error "can't find libsys.so.7
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We've already done what we could (fix the bug and put out an EN).  We've also
clearly documented that you should update your existing system to the latest
patch level before upgrading (this isn't new, because it's not the first time a bug
in freebsd-update broke an upgrade).  But you refuse to read that documentation,
preferring instead to read /usr/src/UPDATING which is intended for people who
update from source, i.e. not you.

So the only problem here is your refusal to read the documentation and follow the
procedure it recommends.  There is no patch for that.
 
free-and-bsd said:
Why doesn't anybody mention the fact, that after freebsd-update install & reboot you get error "can't find libsys.so.7
" and a completely unusable system?
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What version of freebsd did you upgrade from? Since you have root on zfs, you could've (and should've) used boot environment assuming bectl was available.
 
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I used to have 14.2-RELEASE on my Lenovo laptop. Instead of doing the finicky and error-prone freebsd-upgrade(8), for which I've seen more horror stories than I care to link to, I just made a backup of stuff I don't wanna lose, and went for a fresh install of 15.0-RELEASE. Now I'm enjoying it all, it's all up to date, and no version conflicts :P Oh, I even have Plasma Wayland!
 
bakul said:
freebsd-update needs to be made more bullet-proof.
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It seems pretty bullet proof to me, if people read the documentation before using it. We (as a FreeBSD community) should not waste time and effort for those people that don't want to read the documentation.
 
Bugs happen, and system upgrading programs are bug-prone since the specifics of what they do an any given variety of machine are so different. The original programmer does not have the same experience as all users.
 
Indeed. But my experience compile and install from source. Don't rely on automated things. Everything works fine. At least on freebsd.
Had some or more linux installs dying. Not knowing what to do.
 
ralphbsz said:
It seems pretty bullet proof to me, if people read the documentation before using it. We (as a FreeBSD community) should not waste time and effort for those people that don't want to read the documentation.
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I am all for it but in my experience most people don't read documentation until *after* they get in trouble! Also, good documentation is hard to write. This is why initial install and upgrade paths should be as idiot-proof as possible. When I upgrade MacOS I don't read documentation (I just make sure there is a backup). Now granted that the upgrade path is easier for a closed system like MacOS. And it is always much harder in a volunteer driven project + the fact there are far too many different hardware setups where things can go wrong. So this is more a wish than anything else!
 
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