Other Do you want to learn 12 or just 8 programming languages next year?

cracauer@

cracauer@

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That's the number coming out of a survey:


Code: 
Those learning to code want to try more languages 
next year compared to their professional counterparts. 
On average, each user who is learning to code wants 
to try 12 other languages in the next year versus users 
who are professional devs who want to try eight.

I mean... As far as I can tell I learned an above average number of languages (slowed down by rising complexity of C++ mainly). But this is just nuatz. And of course many of these people also call themselves "full-stack" developers, which would require input bandwidth way out of proportion.
 
so... one a month...

After I've learned the 12 languages, will it get me a highly paid job in a hedge fund? Or will they tell me I've "got the wrong skills"? 😂
 
I know what I know now (C/C++) and have Stack Overflow for everything else.
Learning a language (programming or human) is typically done as a need. "I'm going to italy so I need to learn Italian" or "Job requires Rust, so I need to learn Rust".
Now learning a programming language is often relatively easy, because it's just syntax. Being able to write code that compiles is baby step one. Writing code that actually does complex stuff is way beyond that baby step.
Human language equivalent:
"May I have a beer, please" vs a conversation about Venetian philosophy during the 1300's
 
This reminds me of our "local" saying: more stripes, more adidas. It was a pun to counterfit merch that was very popular in early 90s in middle/eastern EU.

But if it makes them happy to "learn" that amount; each to his own.
 
The most ridiculous job ad I have seen recently required programming languages and libraries about 100 years learning worth, plus OSes, embedded, realtime ... and quantum mechanics.
 
cracauer@ said:
The most ridiculous job ad I have seen recently required programming languages and libraries about 100 years learning worth, plus OSes, embedded, realtime ... and quantum mechanics.
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Candidate : "Excuse me, how do Hilbert space and eigenstates fit into a programming job?"
HR : "Our web stack is written in Perl."
Candidate : "Understandable. I have no further questions."

PMc said:
how did it come the number of coding languages actually being useable for "mine is longer"?
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Tis been a while. At least since the dawn of "Web 2.0" web developers.

I don't believe this approach is usable. Maybe it was at a point of IT boom, to net you a high paying job you can leech from, until you get 'compromised'. I do believe there are a lot of people that intentionally job-hopped this way, doing nothing productive, but just raising their PR. But that approach does not work in times of average market performance or crisis.
 
No, I do not want to learn programming languages only to learn them. Not one.

I once learned MathLab for a project, used it once for the project and never again.
Unfortunately employers do not believe that people can learn a language and expect people knowing it before.

mer said:
Now learning a programming language is often relatively easy, because it's just syntax. Being able to write code that compiles is baby step one.
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Often, but not always. Scripting languages seems to be interchangeable, but would you compare them with SQL?
Also BASIC and FORTRAN, and from them to Pascal and C is not a long way, but dealing with pointers is something new.
Programming LISP 100% functional, as in the original concept, is completely different with normal algorithmic language.
Did you ever try PROLOG? Again something completely different.
And we had before the story of OO programing that for me remains exotic.
 
cracauer@ said:
The most ridiculous job ad I have seen recently required programming languages and libraries about 100 years learning worth, plus OSes, embedded, realtime ... and quantum mechanics.
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Well, we couldn't find anyone in this country, so we'll just have to bring in a "world class talent" from abroard....
 
Zare said:
Tis been a while. At least since the dawn of "Web 2.0" web developers.
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That might be. I lost contact to these people, and have no idea how they would think. In my youth, programming languages would be considered nerd stuff, and the practical meaning of nerd was, won't get a girlfried, so mine-is-longer would be pointless from the beginning.

But somehow that perception has changed. It has probably started to change with that chick in the "Hackers" movie, and it certainly got weird after the nerd who wasn't even able to code needed a software to sort out his ***buddies.

Zare said:
I don't believe this approach is usable. Maybe it was at a point of IT boom, to net you a high paying job
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Well, I for my part found after trying, that a coding job is the human equivalent to cage-kept hens. I don't see why that would be desireable...
 
I checked in with one of my old employers with recommendations by three co-workers and former bosses who are still there but part-time. They had an opening for someone to work on upgrading the same system I designed years ago.

I never heard from them.

When I talked to my former boss--the guy who was in charge of the whole engineering department back then--he claimed (at least) he didn't know why and had no influence anymore but got the impression it might be because they wanted someone familiar with the processor and interface electronics they were currently using. I said, "I didn't know anything about the processor or interface electronics for the machine I designed for you and it went on to become your best seller for decades!"

**crickets**
 
drhowarddrfine that sounds like the movie Back To School with Rodney Dangerfield. One of the scenes was "write a paper on this Kurt Vonneget book" and Rodney (because he had money) paid the author to write the paper. Professor failed Rodney.
 
drhowarddrfine said:
When I talked to my former boss--the guy who was in charge of the whole engineering department back then--he claimed (at least) he didn't know why and had no influence anymore but got the impression it might be because they wanted someone familiar with the processor and interface electronics they were currently using. I said, "I didn't know anything about the processor or interface electronics for the machine I designed for you and it went on to become your best seller for decades!"

**crickets**
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The culprit was probably your former boss. Liars really hate it (& you) when you point out their lies. They know you are a “troublemaker” (for them) and don’t want you around.
 
drhowarddrfine said:
I checked in with one of my old employers with recommendations by three co-workers and former bosses who are still there but part-time. They had an opening for someone to work on upgrading the same system I designed years ago.

I never heard from them.

When I talked to my former boss--the guy who was in charge of the whole engineering department back then--he claimed (at least) he didn't know why and had no influence anymore but got the impression it might be because they wanted someone familiar with the processor and interface electronics they were currently using. I said, "I didn't know anything about the processor or interface electronics for the machine I designed for you and it went on to become your best seller for decades!"

**crickets**
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ridiculous... what a crap outfit... they were probably afraid you knew too much and wouldn't work for peanuts
 
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