All countries are different, tell me a fact about your country.

astyle said:
No, it's not healthy stuff by any stretch of imagination, mostly because of the oil requirement. Most of the time, people use cheap oil, and lots of it, to fry the potatoes, which is not healthy at all. Gotta limit oil intake, pay attention to which oil you're using, and then the dish gets expensive because of efforts like that. Some good oils go for $100 USD per liter, y'know.
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That would be crazy to use $100 oil for fries. But I agree that making fries is a waste of oil. Also, overusing it may cause toxic substances do form. The good side is that plant fats are not so harmful for health. I think the original fries were made, using animal fat.
 
DonK said:
Yeahbut, I love Spanish Catholics, the first Europeans to set foot in the New World.
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Nothing wrong with being a fan...

History is more than just dates and lining up exactly what happened, when, and where. If you try to describe the story of Columbus in modern terms, one would be flabbergasted to discover that some things from that era are quite recognizable today. People with money wanted to obtain a competitive edge in global trade, and were willing to invest in daring/questionable ventures to make that happen - venture capitalism is alive and well today. Concepts like purchasing a controlling interest, getting a cut of the profits - they also are easily recognizable both then and now. I could go on and on.
 
astyle said:
Do you like the Jamon Iberico ? That stuff used to be illegal in US until 2008, due to concerns about swine fever. Those concerns stemmed from the fact that it takes a few years for the meat to age properly.

Also: Did anyone know that New York City actually had a ban on foie gras between 2019 and 2022?

Food and production methods can get plenty political, people!
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About food, many things U.S. calls food is forbidden in Europe due to regulations.
Offcourse i cant talk about politics but when it goes to global health not a bad thing for me.
 
DonK said:
I love Spanish Catholics, the first Europeans to set foot in the New World, where my country is located. My country created the best OS on Earth - FreeBSD.

Jesus commands me to love everyone else too, including my enemies.

I also like firearms. You would too if you lived in the Northern Rockies where wildlife (wolves, mountain lions, and bears) eat people alive.
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astyle said:
Do you like the Jamon Iberico ? That stuff used to be illegal in US until 2008, due to concerns about swine fever. Those concerns stemmed from the fact that it takes a few years for the meat to age properly.

Also: Did anyone know that New York City actually had a ban on foie gras between 2019 and 2022?

Food and production methods can get plenty political, people!
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DonK said:
Yeahbut, I love Spanish Catholics, the first Europeans to set foot in the New World.
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I think my message has been misunderstood. I said I am neither proud nor ashamed of my country, Spain. They did horrible things in America or the Philippines. They did it in Europe too. But you have to look at maps like these: indigenous peoples. There was a minority of spanish people (like this) who saw what was happening and demanded rights for native americans. Isabel I of Castile (Wikipedia link, no IA link), the queen in Spain when they was "discover" America, wrote this: "...do not give rise to or allow the indians to receive any wrong in their persons and property, but rather that they be treated well and fairly, and if they have received any wrong, remedy it..." (from Wikipedia, obviously it is a translation), and I know that the greatest massacres were after those words were written and read by the spanish people. And today, native americans (who survived: there were cultures that were lost forever and that cannot be defended) from the countries that formed part of the spanish empire are not the ones who are in the worst situation now or in the past.
And I liked jamón ibérico until I changed my diet.
 
Unfortunately, that isn't human nature. I believe the reason the Puritans came to the US wasn't so that they could have religious freedom, but because in England, they couldn't go after other groups that disagreed with them, which has become a noted US trait. (Not even sure if that's correct about the Puritans, but it sure sounds like something the US would like).
 
A brief clarification regarding the Puritans in "USA"

While the first human presence dates back to the Lenape, the first city was founded by the Dutch in 1624-1625 with the establishment of New Amsterdam. The arrival of the English in 1664 marked a political reestablishment and a name change that would give the city its future identity and growth.
 
Crivens said:
Let's say everybodsy has done horrible things in the past. You are not responsible for them if you were not even alive then. You are, however, responsible for the "never again" part.
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Agree. I would also add that actions should be considered in the context of the time they were done. For example, the Romans committed atrocities two thowsand years ago that today would horrify most people but that were perfectly acceptable at the time.
 
There also were some bearded guys in newfoundland, a lot sooner than the dutch or English. Maybe some DNA analysis might shed some light on them, the settlement is still there.
 
The very idea of Open Source came about because a rogue programmer threw a tantrum over a colleague refusing to share source code for a printer driver. Bill Gates was a Lisp programmer who actually realized the value of letting someone else read your source code.

Both of these sentences, while very true, would amount to complete blasphemy, Sodom and Gomorrah-type stuff to the uninformed masses who don't bother to get properly informed. :rolleyes:
 
Crivens, Dutchmen sailed the seven seas. :). Including Piet Hein. Zijn naam was klein.
But question, now currently today, how does this affect you ?
 
fernandel said:
It s good to look forward but it is bad to forget on history. I do not know if people from Ghana, Burundi...forgot a history.
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In the US, we have people trying to foget about the Civil War... like in Boston, a statue of a general got taken down... why exactly? because he was directing the forces in the South, not North...

And y'know... food examples are nice and all, but once you start analyzing wars and conflict, you have to wonder where we went too far, and when should we, the armchair analysts on the FreeBSD Forums, stop, draw the line, and prioritize civility over who's right.
 
There where and are many wars and i wonder who was or is on the right side of history.
Statues should be seen in their historical context. So educate people to have context. Do not tear down the statues.
They are a reminder of older times.
 
Alain De Vos said:
There where and are many wars and i wonder who was or is on the right side of history.
Statues should be seen in their historical context. So educate people to have context. Do not tear down the statues.
They are a reminder of older times.
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Yep, and exactly how are YOU gonna do it? Are YOU gonna travel to Boston, find the statue, organize local seminars, get all the relevant permissions, and be prepared to sink money into fighting in the US court system over even the very privilege of pushing your point? If you got that kind of money and determination, then sure, this will be an entertaining news item of a European guy pushing those ideas down the throat of Bostonians. Oh, and I need a specific speaking schedule (like date, time, and venue), then I might tune in to your speech as a podcast.
 
Fun thing , we had here a Leopold II tunnel. The tunnel is currently renamed. But what do you achieve with this...
This is a form of symbol politics which does not change history nor the mindset of people.
 
Due to freebsd forum regulations i cannot go deeper into politics or religion, just this, it's not because you tear some pages from a history book that the history is gone or will become a new history. The only thing you did was censorship.
 
I come from the land down under.

I don't really but is that not a great song.

The actual country I come from is one of hundreds which was destroyed by the feverish dreams of disaffected university students.

Went to Belgium once, very beautiful. Looking back, maybe my favourite part of Europe that I have seen, outside of Paris which I guess I'm a walking stereotype but Paris. Belgium struck me as at the same time old and crumbling and vibrant and alive. Every other part of Europe I have seen tends to choose one or the other. Of course, I have not seen Italy, which I suspect scores well on that point as well. Also I don't know what this says about me as a person, but I loved Belgian food.
 
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