When you ask what people want and they say gaming is that really a need for a new thread?
I just thought that the gaming discussion became much longer than the other discussions.When you ask what people want and they say gaming is that really a need for a new thread?
I know, I was kinda nervous about it spilling off into "Linux is xyz because of steam xyz xyz xyz".It's normal in a thread like this, if there are more people interested in a wish or something like that, it can drag on.
In my eyes, however, the topic about UT is now done.
Just for future reference, my posts will never be outside of FreeBSD specific content. It's the only operating system I use on my hardware.I know, I was kinda nervous about it spilling off into "Linux is xyz because of steam xyz xyz xyz".
That is not in doubt. But nothing in the computer world is so good that it cannot be improved further. I guess that otherwise we would still monkey around on 32kB CP/M boxes.FreeBSD is good as it is.
Indeed.That is not in doubt. But nothing in the computer world is so good that it cannot be improved further. I guess that otherwise we would still monkey around on 32kB CP/M boxes.![]()
I beg to differ. Linux often introduces change for the sake of change and calls it improvement (systemd, ALSA, Pulseaudio etc.). Such changes are often not a real improvement and not really the topic here.Indeed.
Something can be improved and also over improved in terms that stabilization would be rather hard to achieve.
In terms of improvements I still prefer *BSDs approach more than linux approach.![]()
I know, I was kinda nervous about it spilling off into "Linux is xyz because of steam xyz xyz xyz".
Linuxulator does not cost any measureable performance penalty, in fact it is even rumored to run binaries faster than some real distros! It also opens you up to the very real, very big threat of Linux malware, so take what you will.I'm not sure on Linuxlator's overhead
Do you think linuxulator can run proton-ge and provide the same compatibility with windows games like a linux distro can ?Linuxulator does not cost any measureable performance penalty, in fact it is even rumored to run binaries faster than some real distros! It also opens you up to the very real, very big threat of Linux malware, so take what you will.
…editors/vscode being another one. Sure, Node and Electron are dumpster fires with frequent vulnerabilities, but reliably having the latest safe version in quarterly would be nice.quarter increments without pkgs vanishing en masse for months. net-im/signal-desktop to name one.
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layerAs long as Linuxulator has support for the same Linux Kernel version that proton-ge requires, then yes.Do you think linuxulator can run proton-ge and provide the same compatibility with windows games like a linux distro can ?
If yes, it would be worth a try.
That would be a great improvement. Half the games I have in steam work with Mizuma, or over half, but linux-steam-utils works with like 12. :/ It would be nice to have a better proton version. The last time I tested, 1 year ago, GloriousEggroll's NobaraOS in wayland actually got less FPS in the same titles on the same machine when running Wayland on FreeBSD with Mizuma. So it would be really cool if we could get the GE version of proton going for the linux-steam-utils package. That would allow for more titles to work well and with better performance on FreeBSD. It would also be nice to see the GE version of Proton for Mizuma as well. Mizuma, in my experience, has a significantly higher compatibility with Steam titles. I do, of course, realize that this is a package request and not a base system request.As long as Linuxulator has support for the same Linux Kernel version that proton-ge requires, then yes.
From my quick search, I can't find the Linux version requirement, but I bet it could run.Do you think linuxulator can run proton-ge and provide the same compatibility with windows games like a linux distro can ?
If yes, it would be worth a try.
You can see supported versions in /usr/src/sys/compat/linux/linux_dummy.c (linked to stable/14) and what's actually implemented is in /usr/src/sys/amd64/linux/syscalls.master (linked to stable/14, amd64).Me neither, but the handbook quotes version 3.17, last edit 2025.
If I am not wrong the binary compatibility of linuxulator should be around linux kernel version 5, and that is still somewhat behind of the version proton-ge requires.
Maybe review D45387 (already landed with multiple related commits on main) would be the first step.better support for alderlake p-core/e-core architecture