I'm just trying to understand. Is it that FreeBSD will become TrueOS and what is now TrueOS will become Project Trident? I am confused.
FreeBSD will always remain FreeBSD, it's handled by the FreeBSD foundation and not going anywhere. Just because some other projects build upon FreeBSD doesn't automatically imply that they're also affecting it.Is it that FreeBSD will become TrueOS and what is now TrueOS will become Project Trident?
Seems like TrueOS is trying to become the Ubuntu of FreeBSD. I still shudder at the thought of some of the weird stuff Canonical pulled off, especially in comparison to Debian.TrueOS will become a downstream fork that will build on FreeBSD by integrating new software technologies like OpenRC and LibreSSL. Work has already begun which allows TrueOS to be used as a base platform for other projects, including JSON-based manifests, integrated Poudriere / pkg tools and much more. We’re planning on a six month release cycle to keep development moving and fresh, allowing us to bring you hot new features to ZFS, bhyve and related tools in a timely manner. This makes TrueOS the perfect fit to serve as the basis for building other distributions.
Don't get me wrong: I wish them all the best, if they can work this out then all the more power to them.We know that some of you will still be looking for an out-of-the-box solution similar to legacy PC-BSD and TrueOS. We’re happy to announce that Project Trident will take over graphical FreeBSD development going forward. Not much is going to change in that regard other than a new name! You’ll still have Lumina Desktop as a lightweight and feature-rich desktop environment and tons of utilities from the legacy TrueOS toolchain like sysadm and AppCafe. There will be migration paths available for those that would like to move to other FreeBSD-based distributions like Project Trident or GhostBSD.
Thank for explaining, but I think how you can see how someone can get confused with all of this.FreeBSD will always remain FreeBSD, it's handled by the FreeBSD foundation and not going anywhere. Just because some other projects build upon FreeBSD doesn't automatically imply that they're also affecting it.
Anyway, I did some research and I can't help but wonder if we're not seeing the beginning of the end for some projects. From this page:
Seems like TrueOS is trying to become the Ubuntu of FreeBSD. I still shudder at the thought of some of the weird stuff Canonical pulled off, especially in comparison to Debian.
And then there's of course this:
Don't get me wrong: I wish them all the best, if they can work this out then all the more power to them.
But at the same time I also get skeptical when I see articles throwing buzzwords around. "Hot new features". Is that to make a better product or to try and make a more appealing product which they can then sell? Not the product itself of course, that'll be available free of charge, but the support on the other hand... And of course they keep relying on FreeBSD
Like I said: all the power to them. But I can't help pick this up as downsizing. Then again, I'm heavily biased
Bottom line: all of this has nothing to do with FreeBSD.
"Distro" is a Linux-ism that does not apply to FreeBSD. A Linux distro is a combination of the Linux kernel and various packages that build it into an operating system. FreeBSD is a complete operating system unto itself. TrueOS only installs packages to make it work as they wish.Both TrueOS and Trident are FreeBSD distros.
You know what I find strange about this. Granted I am new guy here.Seems like TrueOS is trying to become the Ubuntu of FreeBSD. I still shudder at the thought of some of the weird stuff Canonical pulled off, especially in comparison to Debian.
When Manual from monoWall endorsed OPNSense the netgate guy wanted to blow his stack on twitter.
Then I woke up. <grin>
I was so hopeful that I could get an easy to maintain FreeBSD laptop.
# portsnap fetch update
# pkg audit -F
# freebsd-update fetch
I started using FreeBSD 15 years ago, since version 5.0. I have NEVER had a crash in all that time. NEVER! Including running 10 servers and 10 workstations with my business. NONE of them. EVER!I just want my computer to run smoothly and not randomly crash.
I have 5 laptops running FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE-p1 with x11-wm/fluxbox as a WM and they are incredibly easy to maintain IMO. Once I have the base system and my 3rd party programs installed from ports, my documents edited and programs configured it's as easy as running 3 commands daily and taking it from there:
Code:# portsnap fetch update # pkg audit -F # freebsd-update fetch
Crashes are not something I experience with any of my laptops. They are all very stable and reliable machines, and I know that's what I'm going to get every time out of a build without fail.
Edit: I have 4 laptops running 11.2. My Thinkpad X61 FreeBSD MP3 player laptop is still at 11.1. It never needs to go online, could not possibly be running better, and I've decided that falls under the "if it ain't broke don't fix it." rule.
I didn't think fluxbox had been ported.
Yes, it's what I use on all my machines. I don't like a Desktop Environment or someones idea of what programs I should have installed by default. I have a limited number of programs I install on a regular basis I prefer for general desktop activities and my own desktop configuration to make the most of my workspace and style.
If you've seen one DE you've seen most of them sans wallpaper IMO. My screenshots are easy to spot, though most don't care for my config at all.
Two days ago I installed it on my wife computer with Windows 10 (dual boot) without problems and it works.Project Trident is broken nonsense. Just downloaded the 3gig iso today to test it out - wasted a good hour of my day messing with it.