Rant about Aliens...

When someone farts, do they become lighter or heavier?

The answer is: it depends.

Some foods produce gas that is lighter than air, so you become heavier, and some foods produce gas that is heavier than air, so you become lighter.
 
AlfredoLlaquet said:
That is not normal. You may be rotten inside. I'd have it checked up.
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I may be rotten inside. But not physically. But we better don't stress that here. :cool:
Nah, I don't think it needs to be checked. (I recently had a colonoscopy; everything's fine.) It's not regulary, but a rare exception. At least so far. Don't know how it may be when I'm 90...
But I could give some tips what to eat if you want the "total fart." 😁

eternal_noob said:
The answer is: it depends.
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Even if you meant it as a joke this actually puzzled me. And after doing some research I think I can contradict. Since most of it is some air (swallowed by eating too fast), so neither lighter, nor heavier, and fermentation gas, which mostly is methane, which is lighter than air. The rest is some sulfur compounds, which are heavier than air, yes, and are those who deliver the flavour, but those are too few to carry weight.
So I say all farts are lighter than air.
What do you think/did I miss was heavier than air - except you was talking about "included soil delivered", which was no gas, but something between solid matter and liquid.

Yeah, we're talking about farts here. Like twelve year olds. 🤪🤣
This thread is pretty pointless to me anyway.
 
Sorry you are mostly carbon, you don't even come at the level of google A.I. on NVIDIA chips where it's silicon.
But hey, both have 4 free electrons, in their outher bound. I think this is a co-incidence.
Today had a talk with A.I. , I was using wording i cannot repeat :)
 
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpFdLHl7Mgs

Almost an alien world. Some of it looks so similar to the NASA rover photos from Mars. Although on Mars its going to be ever so slightly colder, and the air is way to thin to breathe. It is thought that the rock carvings date from a time when it was green. There are pictures of elephants, rhino, giraffe, cattle...even fish; human herders and hunters, as well as the strange 'alien' figures.

It is thought that it was green and fertile from around 11000 years ago, up to around 5000 years ago. Shuttle imaging radar famously discovered a vast network of buried rivers under the desert. Not a place you want your truck to break down today.

earthsky.org

| EarthSky

Scientists have captured amazing new radar images of a paleoriver network underneath the desert sands of the Sahara.
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SIR (Shuttle Imaging Radar) - eoPortal

Other Space Activity - SIR (Shuttle Imaging Radar)
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The Green Sahara: When the Desert Was a Garden

Between 11,000 and 5,000 years ago, the Sahara was a lush region filled with lakes, rivers, and wildlife typical of African savannas. Archaeological, geological, and paleoclimatic evidence reveals …
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Possibly a similar story happened on Mars, deep in the abyss of time, billions of years ago. It makes me think about how fragile life is.
 
Another rant about Aleeens, by Jacques Vallee:-
As rants about aliens go, this one is pretty good. I would say it's rather better than "Flying Saucers and the Three Men" by Albert K Bender (which was the origin of the "men in black). He explores the idea that the UFOs are not actually alien spacecraft from other star systems but are instead some kind of inter-dimensional phenomena (whatever that may mean).

M. Vallee is actualy a pretty interesting guy; he holds degrees in maths and astrophysics, worked for NASA, worked on ARPANET, was/is a silicon valley VC, computer scientist, worked with Allen Hynek, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Vallée
He is clearly a smart cookie. Perhaps most famously, Vallee was the role model for the French scientist character 'Claude Lacombe' (played by Francois Truffaut) in Spielberg's sci-fi movie 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind'.
 
But what if we eventually meet the aliens, and they turn out to be nothing but a bunch of totally mediocre beings who are living out their own dark ages. What if they now only have bits and pieces of the high technology they once possessed untold eons ago, and now they are nearly as helpless as we are. Such a species might actually be more dangerous than a species at its height.
 
A scary thought. As Vallee says, any meeting with real aliens will represent a profound cultural impact for humans. As I also believe the development of self-aware AI would be, if that ever happens. I noticed in slashdot today, a report of the first human kills by autonomous AI weapons. I guess it's Pandora's Box; light the blue touchpaper, and stand well back. I felt pretty sad, reading this...
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Fully Autonomous Drones Have Killed Human Soldiers For the First Time - Slashdot

Longtime Slashdot reader MattSparkes shares a report from NewScientist, captioned: "For years we've had unconfirmed reports, rumors, hints... now we know." From the report: Fully autonomous drones with no human oversight have killed soldiers on the battlefield for the first time. This is...
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Cedric62 said:
But what if we eventually meet the aliens, and they turn out to be nothing but a bunch of totally mediocre beings who are living out their own dark ages. What if they now only have bits and pieces of the high technology they once possessed untold eons ago, and now they are nearly as helpless as we are. Such a species might actually be more dangerous than a species at its height.
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Nah. The real plot is this... a species with an immense superior technology respect us. Tech development is exponential. They can destroy us in few hours. But, they survived their self destruction, because they become able to moderate their instincts. They are patients: they noticed that we are already self destroying. It can be the title of the next Carpenter film: "They wait" :-)
 
OpenFreeNet said:
Nah. The real plot is this... a species with an immense superior technology respect us. Tech development is exponential. They can destroy us in few hours. But, they survived their self destruction, because they become able to moderate their instincts. They are patients: they noticed that we are already self destroying. It can be the title of the next Carpenter film: "They wait" :-)
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Well, that all depends if they want our little oasis for themselves. A habitable biosphere like Earth might be a rather rare and valuable commodity at any given moment in time, assuming the aliens are more or less compatible, DNA-based lifeforms, which they may be if we can accept some version of Fred Hoyle's panspermia theory, that life originated elsewhere in the universe and was seeded here (eg by comets) rather than developing for the first time on earth. There's a very large and uninhabitable desert out there, where conditions are inimicable to life as we know it. That might make our little planet a rather attractive place. Personally I agree with Stephen Hawking, in his advice not to too loudly broadcast our presence. Avi Loeb is hopeful that meeting the neighbours might be a good thing for us, but I'm not so certain.
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Stephen Hawking’s Warning on Contacting Aliens: A Physics Perspective on the Intelligence Trap - Astrobiology

The search for extraterrestrial intelligence is a fascinating and important endeavor, but it raises significant ethical and safety concerns.
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OpenFreeNet said:
Nah. The real plot is this... a species with an immense superior technology respect us. Tech development is exponential. They can destroy us in few hours. But, they survived their self destruction, because they become able to moderate their instincts. They are patients: they noticed that we are already self destroying. It can be the title of the next Carpenter film: "They wait" :-)
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At this point we just don't know.
 
Cedric62 said:
At this point we just don't know.
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Sure. It is hard to predict our future, also without the intervention of an alien species... If you told to a survivor of WWII that in 2026 there will be multimedia-supercomputers in our pockets, and thanks to this advanced devices, there will be people arguing about the fact that the Earth is flat or not... :-)
 
Well, all this has been happening recently.

UAP DECLASSIFIED ARCHIVE // war.gov

uapufo.web.app uapufo.web.app

And the congressional witness hearings: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c1wgqdnxvr5t

I really don't know what to make of it. It seems to me much more likely that it's a government propaganda exercise, or perhaps something else originating on earth, than real visits by people from other star systems, given the immense distances they would need to travel to get here, and what we know from Physics about the barriers to achieving FTL travel. But the fact that this stuff is being published officially by the government of a major country like the US gives me pause to wonder. I guess we shall just have to wait and see what they come out with.
 
Also, here is something else to think about, why do we always assume that unidentified flying objects must be coming from an advanced alien civilization? Couldn't those flying objects just as easily be time machines sent back from hundreds of thousands of years in our own future? Of for that matter, maybe they are actually from a parallel Earth residing in another universe? After all, unidentified flying objects tend to congregate around airports and military installations, so maybe what we are seeing is light leaking into our universe from another universe, and what we are actually observing is a craft on another Earth preparing to land at their version of Shanghai International Airport. Maybe those objects aren't really in our universe at all, and maybe we are seeing ghost images leaking into our world due to some sort of cosmic glitch.
 
As far as I know, there ain't no such thing as time travel or parallel universes, or higher dimensions, or FTL travel. All we have is conjectures and theories, there is no experimental proof that any of those things are real. The only thing we know for sure is real is good old spacetime, three dimensions of space and one of time, and gravity, that we can verfiy by experiment. And a few things like gravity waves and quantum entanglement that we have been able to confirm experimentally. Although I admit my physics is sadly pretty rusty (I've been working with computers for too long!) so I will be happy to stand corrected if someone else knows better.
 
The real universe, as revealed to us by physics and astronomy, is nothing like sci-fi, like star wars, or star trek, or battlestar galactica. The idea that you'll be able to jump in a little x-wing fighter and fly off to the dagoba system is pure fantasy. In reality, the distances are so vast that its highly unlikely that live humans will ever make it to somewhere like Jupiter, let alone another star system. We are extremely fortunate to have inherited this little lifeboat we are living on, it's a big inhospitable desert out there, and we need to stop destroying our own life support systems. You only have to go 10 miles straight up to hit the desert, and from there it continues, effectively forever. I think Elon's dream of settling Mars is pure hokum, there is no proof that humans can survive for any length of time, away from the host ecosystem. We've got to look after the earth. :-)

There she is...
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Note , a particle can be at different places at same time. Some explain it as wormholes in spacetime ...
Yes theoretically you could live on Mars.
Only one problem,
- You need air , that is oxygen & nitrogen
- You need food & water
- You need energy
( also Environmental Control and Life Support System)
 
blackbird9 said:
The real universe, as revealed to us by physics and astronomy, is nothing like sci-fi, like star wars, or star trek, or battlestar galactica.
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Battlestar Galactica...

[opening narration] There are those who believe that life here began out there, far across the universe... with tribes of humans... who may have been the forefathers of the Egyptians... or the Toltecs... or the Mayans. Some believe there may yet be brothers of man... who even now fight to survive - somewhere beyond the heavens!

[closing narration] Fleeing from the Cylon tyranny, the last battlestar, Galactica, leads a ragtag fugitive fleet on a lonely quest... a shining planet known as Earth.

... it must be true !
 
blackbird9 said:
Spielberg's sci-fi movie 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind'.
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So at the end of this movie...

The great alien space ship lands at (Link Wikipedia): Devils Tower Wyoming and the "5 musical tones" are played to the space alien spaceship by human hand on a musical keyboard. The space alien ship responds to the "5 musical tones" and then the "human keyboard" player hands off playing musical tones to the alien space ship to a "computer", and the computer then learns to speak musical tones with the space aliens. We are going to need to this "computer"!

Otherwise... how will we be able to speak to the space aliens when they get here?

You know lately all I can think about .... is getting to Devils Tower Wyoming any way I can ... for some reason... :-/

Pretty sure the computer musical software runs on ONLY on FreeBSD !
 
Alain De Vos said:
observations have found many worlds which are not habitable.
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The vast majority of all planets is uninhabitable just because of the very narrow conditions needed to become inhabitable:
  • First of all, not every star has planets. Then a planet has to be:
  • large enough to hold an atmosphere
  • small enough to be no gas giant
  • a very narrow band of temperature (water frozen, no life < 0 < T < 50°C < too hot for large organic molecules)
  • being hot from the inside (most of our heat that keeps our conditions inhabitable comes from the inside)
  • a cooled down solid surface
  • close enough to the star to get enough energy
  • far enough away not being toasted
  • the right kind of star
  • in general a pH neutral environment (anything else is SciFi-BS)
  • oxygen, carbon, nitrogen, water and for sure some other elements in the right ratio
  • a day and night cycle, not too fast, not too slow; otherwise one side is toast, the back frozen
  • a slowly changing environment (e.g. continental drift); otherwise no life 'cause no evolution
  • a magnetic field that protects the planet from the star's radiation
  • some other things I just can't tell right now, or I don't know
  • plus the big and still unsolved secret question, how life developes from chemical molecules at all
Anyway I find it remarkable that scientiest not only already found planets outside our solar system at all, since that's not that long when the first one at all was found, but also a few ones that could perhaps be inhabitable.
For me that's enough prove, we are for sure not the only life forms in this universe.
But before any SciFi fantasies run wild: They are in any case too - way - too far away, than we ever could make contact.
 
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