Hi all,
I've been a long time user of the ##freebsd IRC channel on irc.freenode.net (> 5 years). Today I was kickbanned for attempting to help a newbie. Here's an unedited snip of the log:
("ntr0py's" comment just before this was about Sysinstall saying "no CD drive found"):
Does anyone know who has authoritative powers? Who decides who's an op or not? In 5 years, I've spent the vast majority of my conversations in there connecting with other users and helping beginners get their feet on the ground. Generally it's a great place to chat.
After I was kickbanned, I messaged jer to ask what was up...
I don't really care about getting the ban reversed (it'd be nice, though.) I'm curious as to who are the deciding powers as to who gets to have power in this channel; I'd suggest they have some retooling to do.
I've been a long time user of the ##freebsd IRC channel on irc.freenode.net (> 5 years). Today I was kickbanned for attempting to help a newbie. Here's an unedited snip of the log:
("ntr0py's" comment just before this was about Sysinstall saying "no CD drive found"):
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13:44 < weaseal> yeah... ntr0py the install is unfortunately the weakest link in the chain imho... just KISS with the
installer and get creative once you have a base system
13:45 < jer> ntr0py, uh what?
13:45 < ntr0py> i really would like to...
13:45 < jer> you realize how ridiculous that sounds?
13:45 < jer> FreeBSD needs to be able to find the CD to mount the mfsroot so it can *RUN* the installer
13:46 < jer> if your cd is not supported, you'd have never got to a sysinstall screen
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13:46 < ntr0py> jer: hehe yes i booted from DVD and choosing "Installing from a FreeBSD CD/DVD" gives me the message "No
CD/DVD devices found...."
13:46 < jer> so you can't get to the installer itself?
13:46 < weaseal> jer: possibly a bug in sysinstall; I've encountered that itself
13:46 < jer> (blue background)
13:47 < weaseal> and jer no the sysinstall opens, but won't install from CD
13:47 < ntr0py> jer: no the installer boots fine from DVD
13:47 < jer> so BREAK INTO A *beep**beep**beep**beep*ING RESCUE DISK AND RUN THE INSTALL SCRIPTS MANUALLY FROM THE CD
13:47 < jer> it's not bloody rocket science
13:47 < weaseal> jer, gtfo. he's a beginner. people like you make the community worse.
13:47 ::: mode/##freebsd [+o jer] by ChanServ
13:47 ::: weaseal was kicked from ##freebsd by jer [no you gtfo]
After I was kickbanned, I messaged jer to ask what was up...
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13:48 ::: Irssi: Starting query in freenode with jer
13:48 <weaseal> dude wtf. i was not not of line there. i'm trying to help someone who's very new at this.
13:48 <weaseal> and you were being incredibly rude
13:48 <jer> 1 day, don't push your luck with me
13:48 <weaseal> pardon me?
13:48 <jer> if you keep private messaging me, i'll forget about your ban for a while
13:49 <weaseal> i'm not messaging you to argue about a ban, nor your abuse of power
13:49 <weaseal> i'm talking about your disrespect for someone seeking help
13:50 <weaseal> someone who waspolite and offered no instigation whatsoever
13:50 <weaseal> if you'd please at the very least rationalise your verbiage, i'd be content
13:51 <jer> Ask yourself one question: If you have annoyed an op to the point to be temporarily banned for ~24 hours, is it
wise to keep aggrivating him by privmsg?
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