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How are forum rules different from CoCs?I am incompatible with CoCs and other such nonsense.
How are forum rules different from CoCs?I am incompatible with CoCs and other such nonsense.
Same with a number of the developers. It just seems that mailing lists are the preference.One thing that bothers me is that none of the well-known FreeBSD people post here. Colin Percival doesn't even have an account, for example.
Probably they relate just to the forums rather than a random mix of international politics and sexual preferences.How are forum rules different from CoCs?
You know us. We like a good gossip on a topic. I think it could be useful to allow responses. Not so much to discuss with the original poster (if they are automated) but mostly to discuss amongst ourselves. Same with some of vermaden's news digests.Correct. They are scraped from other sites and posted by a script. As they are automated and not posted by an individual the original author of such a scraped post won't see them. So it's rather pointless to allow responses.
Once a company is in need for starting marketing, that is a known bad sign. Unfortunately the effects of marketing are very hard to measure. But for sure marketing has a not so good connotation because it is associated with tricks and manipulation.... got a marketing guy. Within a year, we went under.
This is where the idea of "second brain" has come about! Use an external repository for stuff you want to remember and interconnecting related stuff. Other such keywords: zettelkasten, commonplace book etc. Nowadays you can use apps like Obsidian, logseq, Roam Research, org-mode+emacs, wikis, and many more. Invaluable if you are writing articles, blogs, Thesis, books etc. This really appeals to a certain subset of people and you will find lots of articles and videos and even some books such as "How to Take Smart Notes" but you can start with just plaintext files. You can of course rely on websearch but that is taps into too vast a source. Your "second brain" contains curated & linked information that you deemed important in the past. This goes beyond bookmarking and may be annotating as you also write down your thoughts and link them to others (just the process of spending some time right then improves recall). Of course, when you write based on this database, you still have to make sense to others as they won't have the same context as you!I too often think "oh, that's memorable" then a few days later (or whenever):
Working with this diversity of media is made easier with an online bookmarking/annotation service.
- I forget where I read, or wrote, the memorable thing.
What's the point of a "Community Manager" anyway?
… none of the well-known FreeBSD people post here.
Colin Percival doesn't even have an account, for example.
One thing that bothers me is that none of the well-known FreeBSD people post here.
Manager, Director... all the same useless jobs when it comes to the community. We don't want to be managed, we are grownups. I successfully mastered my potty training already.don't know, but wherever these people are, their roles will be quite different from that of Kim McMahon:
- Senior Director of Advocacy and Community.
One thing to note. Kim is a Senior Director "of Foundation", not whole community. FreeBSD Foundation is, unlike the whole community, a Non-profit "Organization", so officers, directors (and if it's large enough organization, managers and else) shoule be required by legal requirements.Manager, Director... all the same useless jobs when it comes to the community.
There seems to be a VERY big misunderstanding. The directors of the FreeBSD Foundation (how funny the names chosen may look to you) are not the bosses or rulers of the FreeBSD community. They simply serve a different purpose. I.e. talking to hardware vendors for a better support and coordinate projects for coding like improving WiFi.We don't want to be managed, we are grownups.
Exactly, especially when the vendor themselves are constrained with NDA or alike. In those cases, they usually forced to release FreeBSD binaries instead of source codes, meaning they need to build, test and release FreeBSD binary on every updates. (Sometimes it's the choice of themselves, like x11/nvidia-driver's binary part.)They simply serve a different purpose. I.e. talking to hardware vendors for a better support and coordinate projects for coding like improving WiFi.
One minor nitpick - "Open For Work" is the title of that blog post, not the name of Mcmahon's personal blog.The "blog Open For Work" does not look to me as a blog. It's more a self marketing homepage.
"Open For Work" is the title of that blog post, not the name of Mcmahon's personal blog.
… All the donations are better used for coding work.
This is a user forum, and there's nothing wrong with that Someone has to use the damn thing, otherwise all the work on bsdiff, phd thesis etc is just a boring academic exercise. Remember the adoration that the users were held in in Tron! They're lucky they've got a bunch of semi-intelligent simians discussing how it's usedjrm@ emaste@ bsdimp and others weep uncontrollably whilst fading into obscurity
As far as I can tell (can't find gjb or gjb@), neither did Glen Barber.
Colin is a Reddit user, I was aware of his occasional contributions to the FreeBSD subreddit, until today I hadn't thought to take a broader view:
Please note, this is not to provoke any extreme reaction for, or against, things such as Reddit or social media. There's another place (please):
Social Media
Over the last year or so I have disengaged from most social media platforms. The last to possibly go is FB. The problem is I have friends in a variety of communities. I am weighing the cost/benefit ratio for staying with the platform. I am leaning towards departure, I feel it is becoming a...forums.freebsd.org
2013:
Faces of FreeBSD - Colin Percival
Faces of FreeBSD We are pleased to be running our Faces of FreeBSD series again! Every week we’ll be sharing a story from someone inv...freebsdfoundation.blogspot.com
On a personal note, now I know exactly what Colin meant by "fussy toddler" at <https://old.reddit.com/comments/17zzclc/-/ka2stde/>
Twitter/X is a lot better with Minimal Theme for Twitter/X plugin (using with Firefox).I don't like X. I find Reddit & Facebook ok.
Glad to be able to do some positive and for the community. I believe the Enterprise Working Group is a good example of services the Foundation can bring to the table. It's an ambassador for the project (FreeBSD), interacts with stakeholders to spread the word, facilitates paid development when required and helps bring in funding. Truth is, it requires structure and a dedicated team to accomplish this.
Admittedly, some jobs might be possible to fill with volunteers that do not accumulate any costs (like myself) - then again, if you do want continuous progress and delivery, you'll have to spend some money on dedicated staff.
Clearly it's a controversial topic where the money goes. Still, I personally believe it's worth a shot to advance the community the way the Foundation is setting forth at the moment. The more people talk about FreeBSD, the better.
Any change will always offset the balance of things and will make some people unhappy.
I suggest lets be open minded and give Kim a chance to show how she can help the project and serve the community. Having someone work on the marketing and representational aspects for the project can only be good for everyone in my book.
… open minded and give Kim a chance to show how she can help the project and serve the community.
Having someone work on the marketing and representational aspects for the project can only be good for everyone in my book.
Kim McMahon is well-known in the open source and cloud native ecosystem as a marketer of open source and growing healthy and productive communities. She led the marketing and community activities at several Linux Foundation projects including CNCF and RISC-V, building member participation and end-user ecosystems. She has also worked at organizations large and small such as Cisco and Nirmata, leading marketing for open source projects, developer journeys, and community. Community building, breaking down barriers, and uniting are Kim’s drivers.