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A line is a possibly empty sequence of non‑newline characters followed by exactly one newline character. echo always emits one newline character after the given arguments (although there are implementations that support a ‑n switch disabling...

Every screenshot I see in this thread is way cool. Thumb up for everybody ! Each one can customize his desktop as he wishes, so you can work in a great environment :)

FreeBSD 15.0 on Framework 12. sepctrwm - rxvt-unicode. IRL, i never use it like this. Firefox is always on WS 2, there's scratchpad for htop, ncmpcpp and mutt. Blender is on WS 3 without statusbar.

The simplicity is its strength.

Is it possible to use multiple echoes and output to same line? ie so that echo 'abc ' > myline echo 'def ' >> myline echo 'xyz' >> myline create a 'myline' consisting of 'abc def xyz' rather than abc def xyz

This would be a fun git-bisect project if I had the HW... Maybe QEMU Tulip emulation would work?

While modern "Pop" CDs may have an intentionally restricted dynamic range (loudness wars), the actual dynamic range of the CD is 96 dB (even higher, with some tricks). 100 db is kind of a limit where loud passages may start to damage your hearing...

Don't worry, and I hope I don't inconvenience anyone. I know I have a lot installed, and all on a 150GB SSD! 😅 . Btw, I just finished with the pkg prime-list, and I found myself with a weird issue: df reports I have -4.4G free. WTF? I can try to...

Yeah, so let's behave like adults and try not to have this one locked too. There will be people trying their best to derail the thread, we must report them to the moderators and NEVER answer the trolls directly. The old internet rule of 20+...

It's one file (plus a header file), not much to see. It did have some modifications done this year. But if nobody actually uses the card and driver it may very well compile properly yet fail to function...

Don't think it was ever a commonly used network card, so it's very much possible the driver has bugs. It's also quite an old driver, so it likely has a whole bunch of stale code. HISTORY The vr device driver first appeared in FreeBSD 3.0.

That does sound like a bug. I don't have the hardware so I can't try to reproduce it. What version of Freebsd is this under?

we don't have apple tv either :) on the surface it's a postapocalyptic disaster story but it's really a coyote/roadrunner cartoon

There was an unofficial port, but no more: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/disaster-strikes-seamonkey-removed-from-ports-tree.71335/post-637689 It reportedly works under Linux emulation.

It's pretty easy: I did my config on fvwm2 before 3 was released. When I switched to 3 my 2er config did not produce the exact 100% same result on 3. There are some mismatches with my multihead setup, and some few other minor things. Not really a...

Why? You have 65536 /64 prefixes available.

No, that's not what I said. I said a -RELEASE version is set to the quarterly package repositories BY DEFAULT, i.e. on a freshly installed system. Yes, the same way you can switch to the latest repository on all previous -RELEASE versions. You...

Pfew. That's quite the list you have. Hang on, that's going to take me a bit of time to sort through it all. A lot I can do from memory and experience, but you have some things installed I'm not familiar with.

Fluxbox,

Yeah, so let's behave like adults and try not to have this one locked too. There will be people trying their best to derail the thread, we must report them to the moderators and NEVER answer the trolls directly. The old internet rule of 20+...

Before uninstall it is better to compile it. However update the ports tree or if you deleted it, install it again with git, the way jmos said. If you did not deleted it, update it: cd /usr/ports git pull Follow the same instruction by jmos...

Wow, that is very generous, thank you! I realized that when you do a version upgrade you had to count the ports. At the time of doing it, I ignored that steps, because I thought I installed everything from packages... I was wrong. At least...

Compared to twm, fvwm has virtual desktops and the focus behave different. Two advantages, but I prefer twm. You recognize the power of twm when configuring it, and that needs learning, time. In continuously adapt the configuration.

If you have the sources installed in /usr/src/ the time to process the thousands of individual files takes quite a while. If you want to speed up the freebsd-update process remove the source files from /usr/src/, or if you really need those...

During freebsd-upgrade & pkg update , time to go to local bar to drink a coffee :)

You can't (or you have to go 100% via ports). As long as you install a package via ports that no other packages depend on, there is no problem. And that would be the case for you. But: A port may today depend on newer packages than you can...

Please explain that "simply" step by step to a new FreeBSD user ;) IMO that's not really an option. And as only one simple package is needed: overkill.

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If someone is working on the driver, it is likely that they are on the mailing list, rather than here. As it is a volunteer effort, it may be a while unless someone can convince the vendor to get involved.

Never heard of it. I don't have AppleTV. What's it about?

I like playing around with TWM. I keep coming back to XFCE whenever I want to just use the computer and not tinker around. My Linux use is so minimal I just use whatever default comes with the distro I am working with. To be honest, I wish...

Out of curiosity, is there any reason you're not using fvwm3?

The whole world is getting 'authoritarian'. Soon there will be no place to flee.

Proton Mail considered moving out of Switzerland since months, now they started moving. Proton CEO Andy Yen: "We have started to copy our entire infrastructure. Our data is now stored on servers in Switzerland, Germany, and Norway. If necessary...

Freebsd 14.3 + Cinnamon desktop,

Workstation running FreeBSD: I have one laptop HP Zbook 15 G3 and one desktop HP Z600. The desktop one is a dual quadcore Xeon X5570. Two screens wired on an Nvidia Quadro K2000. The Z600 was used for CAD/CAE, but I changed software (FreeCAD ->...

The simplicity is its strength.

SirDice I haven't done that in decades. Why does that speed it up?

Status Update : grub-install was not able to install. The “verbose” showed, that it has not tried to install on the usb-stick. Instead it tried to install on my current zroot pool and was not able to do so - which anyhow was not my wish. I also...

Simply the idea of not caring about partitions is great. How often did you have to move directories around and added links because /var, /usr or somesuch ran out of disk space? With ZFS that is not a problem. Also I have caught drives going bad...

My reason for using ZFS on everything is Boot Environments. System upgrades made simple. One just needs to do "bectl list" every now and again and then "bectl destroy -o" to clean up. But having a BE to roll back to on a failed upgrade...

Yeah, so let's behave like adults and try not to have this one locked too. There will be people trying their best to derail the thread, we must report them to the moderators and NEVER answer the trolls directly. The old internet rule of 20+...

Simply the idea of not caring about partitions is great. How often did you have to move directories around and added links because /var, /usr or somesuch ran out of disk space? With ZFS that is not a problem. Also I have caught drives going bad...

Use the list from pkg prime-list. The command you used is a full list of everything you have installed, including all the conflicting packages. So reinstalling this list will simply result in the same conflicts. The "prime-list" only contains a...

For C and C++, the ZigCC is also very capable of producing a linux, windows, macOS binary from an alternative host. ZigCC is basically clang with a bunch of different platform libraries already pre-bundled in. Its how a cross-compiler *should* be...

Assuming you're on 14.3-Release, amd64 and quarterly pkg, use the repo on the very computer you've fetched the pkg, and you don't want to install / configure web server to make things simple. Decide which directory to make local repo. Here...

FreeBSD's authoritative (primary) git server is a write-only server. It is used for developer commits only. It is replicated to a number of geolocated git replicas (cgit.freebsd.org). The repositories are also replicated to github. What you see...

Let's not derail the OP's discussion with the "Microsoft is evil" topic. Where the git is hosted is a minor issue. I agree with Sir Dice that this forum is not a sensible place for a discussion of the development process. There are a few...