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Exactly. I will stay on 13.x as long as there is a supported 13.x version. Then I will switch to 14.x, and stay on that as long as there is support, which I think is until 2028 or thereabouts. Not clear yet whether I will move to 15.x ever; that...

Most of the more complex drivers for Intel chips in the Linux kernel are written by Intel. It is simply unknown whether the documentation is sufficient for writing drivers without internal help.

Microplane Zester. So... you smell of elderberries?

Gotta be the gas stove. Concerns over nitrates leading to cognitive decline are overblown - that ship sailed long ago. When the power goes out (as it often does in my neighborhood) I can still have hot food.

At least we won't bash each other for no good reason in a thread like this. A fun vanity post instead of dark and negative.

wasn't aware the off-topic board had, like, normal topics

(this is a mandoline btw)

Not sure I buy that. My limited understanding of compilers is high level language -> intermediate machine-agnostic representation -> machine-specific assembler code. Assembly is always there.

Design bug or not, it needs to be handled correctly without crashing. Going back to the Android OpenGL context example, the responsibility is on the app developer to handle lost GL contexts. There are i.e discussions like this. That is my point...

Unfortunately Rust can't protect the data from being stripped out under it. Same with the difficulty of using C (or traditional C++) middleware with smart pointers. Unless Rust "owns" the memory, it can still only make (educated) guesses at its...

This would be best achieved by separation of used language with whether or not the part can be memory safe or not. Keeping mutually memory unsafe parts in C and/or asm, other to some memory safe languge, in source file level. This way, any part...

Yes. And now they want to burden those who do this on a daily basis with keeping the ffi up to date? Let's see how long it takes to turn into a fui, and the burden to keep it up is placed on the rust people. Then a stunt or two from the crowd...

Two different languages in an o/s kernel is a recipe for disaster, IMHO. Oh well, onwards and downwards.

Let the rust jerks go and write their own operating system then, instead of trying to get a free ride on the back of freebsd's success, which they never contributed to. And remember: your turn will come, sunshine, nothing is more certain. Some...

The sqlite people think otherwise.

This is the same problem DMD D had and why it was removed from ports when upstream failed to implement 64-bit inodes. They couldn't implement the ifuncs needed to allow both old and new support.

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a radxa orion board which is basically the same thing sells for 400 euros on aliexpress.without case, ram, psu or storage. freebsd may somehow work on it with half the hw supported and it will probably be less usefull than a vm on apple silicon

High levels of confirmation bias politics in here. sudo(8) was developed by Todd C. Miller (an OpenBSD developer) and released under a permissive licence. I think much of the hate for it comes from the classic Ubuntu style implementation as a...

I had to restore the SourceSafe "database" from tape about once a month for a job I had early on. Yes, that would erase weeks' worth of the whole team's work. I think people kept local copies. Good luck when your workstation's hard drive fails...

My understanding is it's correct. As BETA1 is built using releng/15.0 branch, which 15.0-Release is going to be built after several planned BETA and RC. On the other hand, stable/15 should now be considered as "branch for preparaion of next...

Bottle opener.

The wife.

Design bug or not, it needs to be handled correctly without crashing. Going back to the Android OpenGL context example, the responsibility is on the app developer to handle lost GL contexts. There are i.e discussions like this. That is my point...

Eccl, 1:13, 1:14 (sorry, I can't resist)

Confirmed that the following two sysctls, if their value is requested, will log a kernel message: sys.device.drmn0.pp_mclk_od sys.device.drmn0.pp_sclk_od kernel: amdgpu: pp_dpm_get_mclk_od was not implemented. kernel: amdgpu...

Yes and no. Do you have the constructs in a language to stop the code from using these pointers behind your back while you still figure out if they are valid?

When you call it from the commandline you see no output to the terminal at all?

Unfortunately Rust can't protect the data from being stripped out under it. Same with the difficulty of using C (or traditional C++) middleware with smart pointers. Unless Rust "owns" the memory, it can still only make (educated) guesses at its...

Oh, you would be surprised what can happen. Consider this: dma->src = source; dma->dst = dest; dma->size = len; Now, these registers are right next to each other in the address space. The compiler could figure out that invoking the load store...

I'm afraid you're wrong: [16:07][fmc000@tu45b-freebsd ~]$ pkg search -r FreeBSD-ports-kmods kmod|grep 1500500|wc -l 193 [16:07][fmc000@tu45b-freebsd ~]$ pkg search -r FreeBSD-ports kmod|grep 1500500|wc -l 0...

In case I wasn't clear, I tried tracking stable/15 to chase a nvme-related bug that crashes the system after the second suspend/resume cycle. The virtualbox module is the only one that I use which doesn't have a version 1500500 in the repos...

Here in a 14.3-p4 install I've tried a couple times now to build Firefox-esr from the port. Going from 1.28 to 1.40. It updates rust something else I can't recall, and then installs without issue. When I run it, either from a menu click or by...

That's exactly my point. I was expecting to find 1500500 in the repos (it is not there) and building from ports, with the appropriate kernel sources, I now have a functioning kernel module.

We don't have separate build for minor release on the same major releng version, this applies to stable too. So for amd64 there is only 13.x, 14.y, 15.z and 16.w build, where x,y,z,w are the latest supported minor version respective to the major...

FYI: We are about to order a DL320 Gen11 with Gold 6548Y+, 128 GiB RAM, 2x300 GB HDD for OS and 6x2,4 TB (RAID Z2) on HPE MR408i-o Gen11 storage controller in HBA mode. Host will run bhyve for several virtual machines, no hyper threading. Will...

I'll give that a try later today. (US, EDT, about 6:00 AM right now, I'll probably get to it in the afternoon). I did already emerge the fbdev driver, that didn't do the trick, but going to try the --deep @world and see what happens.

You can try to set VIDEO_CARDS="fbdev" in /etc/portage/make.conf and */* VIDEO_CARDS: -* fbdev in /etc/portage/package.use/00video and then emerge --getbinpkg --ask --changed-use --deep @world Also, if not already pulled by emerge, try...

For nvidia things in FreeBSD[-ports]-kmods repo, luckily I could have some discussion with bapt@ on Matrix, and opened a review D53136 as per his request. Once it is accepted and lands, remaining issue would be another one he is investigating...

Absolutely. One example of this is CHERI: Some links to the work being done in this area: https://www.trust-in-soft.com/resources/blogs/cheri-the-future-of-memory-safety https://codasip.com/glossary/fine-grained-memory-protection/

Hello, at first glance, it would be helpful to know which game it is and whether it is the Windows or Linux version.

Unfortunately Rust can't protect the data from being stripped out under it. Same with the difficulty of using C (or traditional C++) middleware with smart pointers. Unless Rust "owns" the memory, it can still only make (educated) guesses at its...

Just as a heads-up: virtualbox-ose-kmod-72-7.2.2 is still not available in 15.0-STABLE but can be compiled from ports and it loads and works just fine. I suspect that when I tried it earlier I did not have set up my kernel sources correctly: now...

Oh, you would be surprised what can happen. Consider this: dma->src = source; dma->dst = dest; dma->size = len; Now, these registers are right next to each other in the address space. The compiler could figure out that invoking the load store...

I love lamb liver :).

Update 2: In FreeBSD 15-STABLE loading from /etc/rc.conf vboxguest_enable="YES" vboxservice_enable="YES" works okay with X/Plasma6 again, no need for using /etc/rc.local for vboxguest

This would be best achieved by separation of used language with whether or not the part can be memory safe or not. Keeping mutually memory unsafe parts in C and/or asm, other to some memory safe languge, in source file level. This way, any part...

You can try to set VIDEO_CARDS="fbdev" in /etc/portage/make.conf and */* VIDEO_CARDS: -* fbdev in /etc/portage/package.use/00video and then emerge --getbinpkg --ask --changed-use --deep @world Also, if not already pulled by emerge, try...

On which version of FreeBSD is this happening? There is a open problem report from 2022-03-28 [1], reporting similar or same disconnects by multiple users, still active (last comment on 2025-07-09). The PR reporter claims having no problems on...

Talking about security, I just noticed that pkg audit now works for the base as well. On FreeBSD 15.0-STABLE stable/15-n280708-bbfaff26bf36 GENERIC: > pkg audit libxslt-1.1.43_1 is vulnerable: libxslt -- unmaintained, with multiple unfixed...