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    There's a bug open for that in the FreeBSD bugzilla I believe. Maybe check that out for more details.
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    dkh reacted to cracauer@'s post in the thread FreeBSD development seems lost with Like Like.
    So we have 6 pages of fear and loathing by now and the only real thing that is reflected in code that was brought up is pkgbase.
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    kpedersen replied to the thread FreeBSD development seems lost.
    Following on from bsdimp , it is OpenBSD which has Perl in base (mainly for their packages system unlike i.e Debian which uses it for everything). sed and awk are very different to Perl in that they are part of POSIX/SUS. They are also less...
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    bsdimp replied to the thread FreeBSD development seems lost.
    Perl was removed 20 years ago or so.
  • elgrande
    That might be worth a try...
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    kpedersen reacted to Isoux's post in the thread Humble hobby OS project with Like Like.
    The original desire and inspiration was to write this in Rust, so the inspiration for R4R originally came from there. My capabilities are not that great now, so I decided to go with C and I'm still not happy with LLVM support for x86_32 because...
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    kpedersen reacted to Isoux's post in the thread Humble hobby OS project with Like Like.
    The ultimate goal of R4R is to demonstrate, in a tangible and observable way, how all four Intel x86 protection rings (0–3) can coexist and interact within a single operating system — each with its own stack, TSS, LDT, and clearly defined domain...
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    hruodr reacted to Isoux's post in the thread Humble hobby OS project with Like Like.
    According to the question I asked here: My Humble hobby OS project:
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    scotia reacted to kr0m's post in the thread Solved Upgrading to release 14 from 13 with Thanks Thanks.
    To continue using Sendmail:
  • elgrande
    Unfortunately I can not - I am to stupid to type blindly 😅
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    hruodr replied to the thread FreeBSD development seems lost.
    The reason I wanted ZFS and moved to FreeBSD was to have self healing using redundance and check sums. It seems Hammer 2 has it. I do not need till now other features of ZFS. I was always happy with UFS. I will investigate V lang, thanks...
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    drhowarddrfine replied to the thread Humble hobby OS project.
    Your link isn't one.
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    hruodr reacted to cracauer@'s post in the thread FreeBSD development seems lost with Thanks Thanks.
    I'm not sure. Myself I don't have any DDR5 based computer, so I am quite behind what many normal users have. I know many developers that use some random old Thinkpad (not because they can't afford a new one, because of the better keyboard) or...
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    kpedersen replied to the thread Humble hobby OS project.
    A cool project. I do like seeing OS research being done because it is very much becoming a lost skill. Contrast to the hard time I give Rust when it is spammed ontop of layers of C, I am quite interested in 100% pure Rust operating systems...
  • cracauer@
    cracauer@ replied to the thread FreeBSD development seems lost.
    I'm not sure. Myself I don't have any DDR5 based computer, so I am quite behind what many normal users have. I know many developers that use some random old Thinkpad (not because they can't afford a new one, because of the better keyboard) or...
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    hruodr reacted to USerID's post in the thread FreeBSD development seems lost with Thanks Thanks.
    I've reread your messages. Very informative. But there's a bit of acid nihilism in them. So far, I don't see any reason to deviate from the chosen path of development. I'm not overly concerned about every little detail, so it will be easier for...
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    sidetone reacted to Isoux's post in the thread Humble hobby OS project with Like Like.
    According to the question I asked here: My Humble hobby OS project:
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    hruodr replied to the thread FreeBSD development seems lost.
    Yes, I know it, I see the problem, the idea is perhaps only reachable with limitations, but perhaps just to have some syntax sugar to make some programs less verbose would be a great thing ... And regarding f2c, you know where it comes from...
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    hruodr reacted to blackbird9's post in the thread FreeBSD development seems lost with Thanks Thanks.
    Wel, there is perlcc, although it wouldn't be much fun trying to debug the C code it produces... https://metacpan.org/dist/B-C/view/script/perlcc.PL
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    hruodr reacted to cracauer@'s post in the thread FreeBSD development seems lost with Thanks Thanks.
    Compiling to C is more tricky than it appears at first. C has limitations that get in the way, for example integer overflow checking and exceptions. GC will be crippled. Scripting languages are usually too dynamic and would require using the...
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    hruodr replied to the thread FreeBSD development seems lost.
    I can understand that stupid critics are demoralizing, but not all critics can be despised. In my case, I only want to work as I worked since decades, and the idea that the system becomes wonderful, but unrecognizable, is an horror. I am not a...
  • cracauer@
    cracauer@ replied to the thread FreeBSD development seems lost.
    Compiling to C is more tricky than it appears at first. C has limitations that get in the way, for example integer overflow checking and exceptions. GC will be crippled. Scripting languages are usually too dynamic and would require using the...
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    hruodr replied to the thread FreeBSD development seems lost.
    That is an interesting idea. One could introduce FORTRAN code in the kernel and then use f2c. I would like to have something like a scripting language that compiles to C, but I never found such.
  • cracauer@
    I didn't know Firefox has an export-to-cvs capability for saved passwords built in. Maybe you are using an extension there"
  • Crivens
    Crivens replied to the thread FreeBSD development seems lost.
    Sadly, Cohen is dead. Just imagine him touring the late night shows today...
  • cracauer@
    cracauer@ replied to the thread ZIG programming language..
    I can't speak for the moderators, but I would be interested. I think our off-topic subforum can carry that.
  • vmisev
    vmisev replied to the thread FreeBSD development seems lost.
    So, cultural Endianness issue? From Swift to Cohen and back from Cohen to Swift 😁 __builtin_bswap{16,32,64} FTW! 😎
  • sidetone
    sidetone replied to the thread ZIG programming language..
    Start a new thread in off topic, especially if it's not Zig related.
  • vmisev
    vmisev reacted to Crivens's post in the thread FreeBSD development seems lost with Like Like.
    Oh, there totally is.
  • vmisev
    vmisev reacted to blackbird9's post in the thread Intelligent life. with Thanks Thanks.
    Gharlane of Eddore 😁 https://efanzines.com/Planetary/PS02/doomedlensmen.htm
  • sidetone
    sidetone reacted to Isoux's post in the thread ZIG programming language. with Like Like.
    Since I started this thread, I’ve mentioned in a few places that I’m working on a humble hobby OS project. Now, I have a modest request and a kind of appeal for your help. Since this is my first community where I’m sharing experiences and asking...
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    Hello I tried to upgrade from 15.0-ALPHA5 to 15.0-BETA1 but it fails for some reason ... --- buildworld --- -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 1.2: bootstrap tools...
  • Crivens
    Crivens replied to the thread FreeBSD development seems lost.
    Oh, there totally is.
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    Replacing "latest" with "quarterly" on my test VM made no difference. I'll try again later.
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    I think this is the crux of it. Try to rely less on online services. Requiring a login for each one was never going to be sustainable. I also note that not every password matters. Sure, keepass for important ones like email but for data dumps...
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    FWIW, BETA1 is out but a simple pkg upgrade does not show anything available at the moment.
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    fmc000 reacted to T-Aoki's post in the thread Call for testing: pkgbase support in 15.0 with Thanks Thanks.
    Exactly. ALPHA* are built using stable (here, stable/15 for 15.0) branch. On the other hand, BETA*, RC* and final 15.0-Release are built using releng/15.0 branch. So as following patch releases like future 15.0-Release-p*. But sorry, as I'm not...
  • robroy
    robroy reacted to FreeBSD News's post in the thread FreeBSD 15.0-BETA1 Available with Like Like.
    Original article here. Consider this when replying. The first BETA build for the FreeBSD 15.0 release cycle is now available. ISO images for the amd64, armv7, powerpc64, powerpc64le, and riscv64 architectures are FreeBSD mirror sites. Continue...
  • sidetone
    sidetone replied to the thread FreeBSD development seems lost.
    That's a suggestion from they, the White House, not FreeBSD. FreeBSD decided not to use Rust in base. The White House has also stated that Rust isn't the only option. The only language in base that makes any sense, is anything that natively...
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    FreeBSD News posted the thread FreeBSD 15.0-BETA1 Available in Blogs and Newsfeeds.
    Original article here. Consider this when replying. The first BETA build for the FreeBSD 15.0 release cycle is now available. ISO images for the amd64, armv7, powerpc64, powerpc64le, and riscv64 architectures are FreeBSD mirror sites. Continue...
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    Does this mean that if I am on FreeBSD 15.3, there is a release of 15.4 and 16.0, then it is impossible to upgrade packages without upgrading to 15.4 or to 16.0?
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    hruodr replied to the thread FreeBSD development seems lost.
    My I ask your degree of education?
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    hruodr reacted to Crivens's post in the thread FreeBSD development seems lost with Like Like.
    I don't think so. You lot usually get this under control yourself, and even the rant threads usually get some good nuggets to the top. The same here, I think. Took only 6 pages to realize the sky is not falling. That is one thing I like about...
  • vmisev
    vmisev reacted to Crivens's post in the thread FreeBSD development seems lost with Like Like.
    I don't think so. You lot usually get this under control yourself, and even the rant threads usually get some good nuggets to the top. The same here, I think. Took only 6 pages to realize the sky is not falling. That is one thing I like about...
  • vmisev
    vmisev reacted to MrBSD's post in the thread FreeBSD development seems lost with Like Like.
    And this is another thing. Why even pay attention to those things? Who cares about linux and political bs. Wolf does not care what the sheep think about him. I dont care what sexual orientation, political views, or food preference of freebsd...
  • vmisev
    vmisev reacted to Useradd's post in the thread FreeBSD development seems lost with Like Like.
    Sometimes some people need to release their pent-up frustrations, and do so online. In MMORPGs, where the situation gets much worse, the advice is to ignore "griefers", not feed the trolls, and regard heated exchanges as drama (bring popcorn but...
  • vmisev
    vmisev reacted to T-Aoki's post in the thread Call for testing: pkgbase support in 15.0 with Thanks Thanks.
    Exactly. ALPHA* are built using stable (here, stable/15 for 15.0) branch. On the other hand, BETA*, RC* and final 15.0-Release are built using releng/15.0 branch. So as following patch releases like future 15.0-Release-p*. But sorry, as I'm not...
  • Crivens
    Crivens replied to the thread FreeBSD development seems lost.
    I don't think so. You lot usually get this under control yourself, and even the rant threads usually get some good nuggets to the top. The same here, I think. Took only 6 pages to realize the sky is not falling. That is one thing I like about...
  • vmisev
    vmisev reacted to MrBSD's post in the thread FreeBSD development seems lost with Like Like.
    Its really sad when project developers get frustrated by so called "users" that have no idea what are they talking about and constantly bitch about everything like entitled spoiled brats. This is why we cant have nice things. Im seeing this as a...
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