xorg with or without

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I had to compile xorg on FreeBSD-10.0-p10 with the
Code: 
WITHOUT_NEW_XORG=yes
flag in /etc/make.conf. It wouldn't work any other way. It could not detect my hardware and could not Xorg -configure. I thought that all this WITH_NEW/WITHOUT_NEW nonsense was a thing of the past under 10.0.
 
It's an HP ProLiant DL585 G1. Four AMD Opteron at 2.6 GHz and 16 GB of RAM. It has no graphic card. I believe the GPU is the ATI Rage.

During my tries without any special make.conf I had this error message:
Code: 
/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/Mach64_drv.so: undefined symbol "xf86FreeInt10"
.
 
The Rage is really old and might not work with KMS. If it is being used as a server, it probably does not need X at all. If it does, the vesa driver ought to work with KMS so it's not necessary to have non-default options in /etc/make.conf. Or a video card could be added.
 
Thanks for the answers. I think I tried the vesa driver. Anyway I ended up compiling with WITHOUT_NEW_XORG and it worked okay. It's just that I would have preferred spending the last three days doing something else :D plus I wanted to run a fully up-to-date 10.0 system.

Now it just finished to build the Lumina Desktop from ports and I will try it tomorrow. ;) That was the main motivation behind my wanting to build X in the first place as I am very curious of this DE. I can't wait.
 
So here's a question, folks: is the use of x11/xorg mandatory to get any kind of GUI/desktop going, or is there an alternative? I'm guessing the answer is no, or the alternatives are worse?
 
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