Solved Wayland forum

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decuser

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Is it time to add a Wayland forum? Personally, xorg’s showing its age, and I’m curious what the plan is - stick it out with aging foundation or move to Wayland? I’m also wondering what pieces work and which don’t and I’d prolly give it a shot if we had a forum to browse/watch for issues, fixes, and workarounds. As it stands Wayland questions are all over the place.

Thoughts?
 

Jose

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Then we can talk about Arcan too! If I ever get around to actually trying it out.
 

SirDice

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Maybe just rename the X.Org forum to "Display servers". That should be enough.
That's a good suggestion. I don't think there's enough content yet to fill a (sub)forum with wayland specific questions. We can always split this up into Xorg and Wayland later as sub forums if there's enough content.
 

drhowarddrfine

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Every so often I find an article from someone far too knowledgeable about all this saying Wayland is a mistake and cannot and should not replace X under any circumstances.
 

astyle

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Every so often I find an article from someone far too knowledgeable about all this saying Wayland is a mistake and cannot and should not replace X under any circumstances.
Links, please.

Oh, but Wayland is gaining steam... there's efforts to make Java usable under Wayland. I'm not a fan of Java, but given how firmly entrenched it is in today's economy, I would take it as Wayland moving in the direction of more widespread adoption.
 

hardworkingnewbie

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In the good old Usenet days we had one simple motto when somebody wanted to create a new newsgroup: show me the traffic, Luke!

Since it's so nichy an own group is unjustified in my opinion; putting it into a related group makes sense like eternal_noob suggested.
 

Jose

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Every so often I find an article from someone far too knowledgeable about all this saying Wayland is a mistake and cannot and should not replace X under any circumstances.
Agreed, but I wonder. How usable is it right now?
 

astyle

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I was going to say that it's just random write ups but one I just read recently, and was in my browser's history, is this one but I don't recall who he is or why someone pointed me to that article.
Thanks for the link. I read it - the author is quoting Wayland incompatibilities that go as far back as 2015, but the most recent issue quoted by the author in the article is from 2018. (Actually, I stand corrected - it's June 3, 2021, but it doesn't change my point, which I will get to shortly).

For every single issue pointed out in that article, there is active development going on to address it. And while the comments section was awfully long, I got the impression that about half the comments were making the same point I am making here - issues are legit, but actively being addressed.
 

astyle

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But there are issues and this is only one of the many articles I've seen this year. I can't take a side because X works for me and I have other more pressing things to take care of.
I guess I'll be the one getting the hot new stuff ;) :p
 

Alain De Vos

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Code:
pkg info | grep -i xorg                                                                                                    0
xorg-fonts-truetype-7.7_1      X.Org TrueType fonts
xorg-minimal-7.5.2_3           X.Org minimal distribution metaport
xorg-server-1.20.11_3,1        X.Org X server and related programs
xorgproto-2021.4               X Window System unified protocol definitions
I'm certain i can reduce this.
 

astyle

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Code:
pkg info | grep -i xorg                                                                                                    0
xorg-fonts-truetype-7.7_1      X.Org TrueType fonts
xorg-minimal-7.5.2_3           X.Org minimal distribution metaport
xorg-server-1.20.11_3,1        X.Org X server and related programs
xorgproto-2021.4               X Window System unified protocol definitions
I'm certain i can reduce this.
That was 4 packages, not 2... 😩
 

Alain De Vos

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I was logged into a jail when i wrote 2 not the host. Can happen to the best persons.
 

Beastie7

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Well, it looks like upstream has finally decided to include FreeBSD support. So it seems appropriate and timely for this change.
 
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