Thanks for the reply, the update section of the manual is what got me scared. And I broke my system once when I installed KDE. As far as kernel or third party, I guess what I did with third party broke my X system. Full Backup sounds like my ace in the hole, sometimes I forget the basics. As I have been a windows and linux user for a while I am ready to keep and learn a good system and from what I have found this is the one!