Surprised to learn that the BSDs are dying

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This article is from 2021, but I just came across it.

It is official; Netcraft now confirms: BSD is dying
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26168596

I am reminded of that quote from Mark Twain: "eports of my death have been greatly exaggerated."

I am not sure if that applies here. I would have thought that intest in the BSDs would be picking up, due to widespread dissatisfaction with the direction that Linux seems to be going.
 
If Linux systems ever make a better server OS than the BSDs I will agree they are dying. That has yet to happen. The ease of administration of the BSDs vs Linux is night and day, and only getting further apart.

Don't care about the desktop. I hope all *NIX systems die for that use case.
 
FreeBSD is driving billions of dollars of infrastructure and products in many markets. It's probably bigger than Linux in the sense that so many embedded products (ie. apple, sony, netflix, juniper, etc.) are based on it. I've even heard FreeBSD being referred to as "The Unknown Giant".

This nonsense has to end. It's far from dead.
 
Yes. I'm waiting for the first real law suit about this Alexa things. I am waiting for the first suit for defamation since there is proof that nothing was said, and that all this crap is based on some feelings. This has gone beyond clown world and into utterly insane territory. We need some corrective, and the backlash will be absolutely brutal.
 
kent_dorfman766 said:
Am fearing how many of the herd will happily take their implants when they become available.
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What if I told you the brain can already be interfaced with wirelessly without the need for any implants? You'd be surprised how worthless most of our cognitive noise is. (my prefrontal cortext is where your soul lives and where all the magic happens)

mer said:
The story about Amazon locking a guy out of his Alexa-powered smarthouse when a driver falsely accused him of saying something and then think what could be done if people where actually implanted. That would be fun to watch.
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The delivery drivers work as third-party businesses FOR Amazon. It's likely whatever happened was because of this third party companies policy or more likely some personal policy because who cares?

Crivens said:
I'm waiting for the first real law suit about this Alexa things.
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Don't hold your breath.

Crivens said:
This has gone beyond clown world and into utterly insane territory.
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:beer:
 
walterbyrd said:
This article is from 2021, but I just came across it.

It is official; Netcraft now confirms: BSD is dying
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26168596

I am reminded of that quote from Mark Twain: "eports of my death have been greatly exaggerated."

I am not sure if that applies here. I would have thought that intest in the BSDs would be picking up, due to widespread dissatisfaction with the direction that Linux seems to be going.
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FreeBSD has no bind nodes anymore I think.
 
walterbyrd said:
It is official; Netcraft now confirms: BSD is dying
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26168596
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Let's do some analysis of this text:
Code: 
BSD is dying
BSD market share has dropped
BSD is collapsing
BSD faces a bleak future
BSD because BSD is dying
Things are looking very bad for BSD
BSD continues to lose
FreeBSD is dying.
BSD is very sick
BSD continues to decay
BSD is dead.
BSD is dying
  1. In such a small snippet, we see 12 clear statements about the death of BSD.
  2. The text is written as a discredit in the expectation that the reader will definitely remember the beginning and end of the text, which tell us that BSD is dying. Just in case, at the end this wording is repeated 2 times, so that the reader certainly does not forget: BSD is dying.
  3. Most likely, this discredit is not intended for engineers, but for those who make decisions about sponsoring (naturally, not in favor of BSD).
  4. One notable example of this was when a Linux executive spoke about OpenBSD and compared it to the crowd.
  5. The statements in this text have absolutely no technical argumentation and grounds. There is no analysis, which means that the text is intended for those who are not prone to analysis themselves. Even if someone took up the comparison of Linux and FreeBSD (and not even all BSDs), such a comparison could pull on a very voluminous article. Of all the articles comparing Linux and FreeBSD, I have not seen one truly comprehensive, usually it was an overview for those who are not familiar with either one or the other.
 
personally I wouldn't even click on such drivvel. As a general rule, when someone posts a "check this out" link on a forum I ignore unless they give a summary AND inform me of whether I'll be able to read it without registering or disabling my adblock. as far as news.ycombinator.com is concerned: I don't consider anything posted therein to be credible or useful.
 
What if that claim is propaganda, intended to harm BSD's, and promote their choice of operating systems? The claim gets rather annoying.

Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that BSD has steadily declined in market share. BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a cockeyed miracle could save BSD from its fate at this point in time. For all practical purposes, BSD is dead.
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Is this someone's unseemly fantasy? Also, the so called stats in that passage about the number of users and the claim that over 90% of developers left are ridiculous.
FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.
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OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore...
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A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
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Bogus math, bogus claims and bogus fantasy.
 
Pretty sure the hacker news link is the same ancient article that is usually, as I said early in the thread, only posted as sarcasm. It goes wayyyyyyyyyyyy back and even if there's a link from a year or two ago, it's to the same old thing. It can be ignored, or snickered at, depending upon how cleverly it's used. If someone innocently posts the link, thinking it's true send them to original links https://freebsd-questions.freebsd.narkive.com/s92EcXtl/bsd-is-dying and nicely tell them it's from 2003 and it's taking longer to die than Deadpool did in his lengthy death scene from Deadpool 2 (where, like the BSDs, he never did die).
 
Before my answer: Let's not take this too seriously. :beer:

sidetone said:
What if that claim is propaganda, intended to harm BSD's, and promote their choice of operating systems? The claim gets rather annoying.
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It's funny. Who cares.

sidetone said:
Is this someone's unseemly fantasy? Also, the so called stats in that passage about the number of users and the claim that over 90% of developers left are ridiculous.
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Good riddance. We didn't need them!

sidetone said:
Bogus math, bogus claims and bogus fantasy.
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Bogus is right! (right?)
 
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