Norwegian Keyboard

Psypro

Psypro

Hi

I tried again still no support for Norwegian letters like ø. æ. å.
Wikipedia link, try to make that letter yourself, should be close to the enter key of the keyboard : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Æ

I have tried FreeBSD 10 some time ago, and tried FreeBSD 11 today.

At installment when testing keyboard, these keys does not work.
When entering login information, the keys does work!!!!!
After login in the keys does not work.
Root user gives a text 1013/1130 when hitting the key (something like that just made that up some numbers)
Normal user gives a "Beep sound" when hitting the key
Tried adding a user with CSH shell, does not work there either.

I tried with two different keyboards.
Microsoft 2000 wireless
Reboot, and then
Lenevo OEM USB keyboard

Nr1: For a OS that prides it self with a well working core system, if find I strange that such basic functionality as keymap shows so weak functioning.
Nr2: That a know error is not dealt with in an timely manner. Years has past and same problem.
 
I recommend the installation system and "base system" just work, with out hacking, and editing files.
And, is it not prof enough that the installation program even cant handle the keys. I can hardly imagine that is the way the install program was designed.
I see it as a bug, that the test program for keyboard in the Freebsd install, fails to correctly show Norwegian keys. That is rather underwhelming, and defending is this weak functionality, I think belittle FreeBSD.
Similar I see it as a bug, when Freebsd base system, fails to apply local setting from installation consistently. Apply correct keymap to login procedure, but fails to apply it for shell.

Tanks for the replay BTW, read those handbook last time. I had hoped thing has improved since last time.
 
Are you aware of https://wiki.freebsd.org/Newcons?
If you add this to /boot/loader.conf
Code: 
kern.vty=vt
special characters might work as expected. See sc(4) and vt(4). Everythingis still not perfect but may be it suits your needs. The issue is screen resolution. Please dig for other threads related to vt or newcons, too. I guess you have just not found the right keywords. Good luck and success, :beer::). The other path would be to use sc(4) and luit(1) (select release+ports to find the man page) for some stuff, but this should be not really future proof.
 
Both sc(4) and vt(4) work fine with nordic characters (maybe with all accented ones). The problem is that the selection done while installing, does not propagate to all required places. There aren't many, just 3 places, so IMHO it isn't a big deal.

I know Psypro isn't asking for help, but anyway, pike is a fish

/etc/rc.conf
Code: 
keymap="fi.kbd"
allscreens_flags="-f gallant.fnt"
/etc/login.conf
After edit, run cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf.
Code: 
default:\
  :charset=iso-8859-1:\
  :lang=en_US.ISO8859-1:\
/usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/keyboard.conf
Code: 
Section "InputClass"
  Identifier  "KeyboardDefaults"
  Driver  "keyboard"
  MatchIsKeyboard "on"
  Option  "XkbLayout" "fi"
EndSection

Run cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf if you did not already.

fi, se, no, dk, ...

Juha
 
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Thank you both for your encouragement, and sharing knowledge with a fresh user. I went back, and gave it another try. This time, writing from FreeBSD Xfce4!

Still I think I want to report what I see as a bug in the install.
The test keyboards script in bsdinstall(8), fails to show Norwegian specific keys
 
Juha Nurmela said:
Both sc(4) and vt(4) work fine with nordic characters (maybe with all accented ones). The problem is that the selection done while installing, does not propagate to all required places. There aren't many, just 3 places, so IMHO it isn't a big deal.

I know Psypro isn't asking for help, but anyway, pike is a fish

/etc/rc.conf
Code: 
keymap="fi.kbd"
allscreens_flags="-f gallant.fnt"
/etc/login.conf
Code: 
default:\
  :charset=iso-8859-1:\
  :lang=en_US.ISO8859-1:\
/usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/keyboard.conf
Code: 
Section "InputClass"
  Identifier  "KeyboardDefaults"
  Driver  "keyboard"
  MatchIsKeyboard "on"
  Option  "XkbLayout" "fi"
EndSection

fi, se, no, dk, ...

Juha
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Still does not work : (
Followed every step.

Now I have ,å.æ in Xfce4
But still not inside vi(1) or shell, or xterm(1).
 
Tried yours exact, now trying with these. Still no shell, å, æ.
Works in xfce4.

A part from my Login.conf
Code: 
default:\
:charset=UTF-8:\
  :lang=nb_NO.UTF-8:\



    :passwd_format=sha512:\
    :copyright=/etc/COPYRIGHT:\
    :welcome=/etc/motd:\
    :setenv=MAIL=/var/mail/$,BLOCKSIZE=K:\
    :path=/sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/local/sbin /usr/local/bin ~/bin:\
    :nologin=/var/run/nologin:\
    :cputime=unlimited:\
    :datasize=unlimited:\
    :stacksize=unlimited:\
    :memorylocked=64K:\
    :memoryuse=unlimited:\
    :filesize=unlimited:\
    :coredumpsize=unlimited:\
    :openfiles=unlimited:\
    :maxproc=unlimited:\
    :sbsize=unlimited:\
    :vmemoryuse=unlimited:\
    :swapuse=unlimited:\
    :pseudoterminals=unlimited:\
    :kqueues=unlimited:\
    :priority=0:\
    :ignoretime@:\
    :umask=022:

rc.conf

Code: 
hostname="BSD"
keymap="no"
ifconfig_re0="DHCP"
sshd_enable="YES"
moused_enable="YES"
ntpd_enable="YES"
powerd_enable="YES"
# Set dumpdev to "AUTO" to enable crash dumps, "NO" to disable
dumpdev="AUTO"
zfs_enable="YES"
allscreens_flags="-f gallant.fnt"
 
https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/how-to-change-keyboard-mapping-in-the-console.50104/#post-280286

First, to have UTF-8 you need a vt(4) console, for this you need to add
kern.vty="vt"kern.vty=vt to your /boot/loader.conf

Next, in your /etc/rc.conf you must have keymap="es"keymap=es

In /etc/login.conf you need to add at least this:

Code: 
spanish|Spanish Users Accounts:\
:charset=UTF-8:\
:lang=es_ES.UTF-8:

Then in terminal run: # cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf

And finally: # pw user mod root -L spanish
if you want to add spanish letters for some other user, just change root to user login name, for example:
# pw user mod macondo -L spanish
After reboot you should have Spanish signs."

This worked for me, using Norwegian values as shown in previous post.
 
That's funny. Maybe I forgot something or fi/no is somehow different. I did praise vt(4) bit too much. Swedish characters are ok, but shifting by AltGr does not produce ø æ like it does under X11.

Notice the en_US there, that's to keep normal system messages. Else there will be a mixture of localized and english messages from different programs. I find it really confusing. You can see the options in /usr/share/locale/.

Related environment variables on xterm, you don't need to set them all explicitly, it's automatic
Code: 
hopo $ env
XTERM_VERSION=XTerm(320)
MM_CHARSET=iso-8859-1
LANG=en_US.ISO8859-1
TERMCAP=xterm|X11 terminal emulator:......snip
XTERM_LOCALE=en_US.ISO8859-1

This on the text console
Code: 
MM_CHARSET=iso-8859-1
LANG=en_US.ISO8859-1

This should be ok, but let's check anyway
Code: 
hopo $ stty -a
...
cflags: cread cs8


Juha
 
Psypro: just a check - you are installing on a physical machine, right? Not on a virtual machine in VirtualBox or some other virtualization engine?
 
Check and remove those extra lines in /etc/login.conf, the ancient file format is unforgiving. No blanks after the backslashes either.

Code: 
default:\
:charset=UTF-8:\
:lang=nb_NO.UTF-8:\



:passwd_format=sha512:\

Juha
 
Psypro said:
I tried again still no support for Norwegian letters like ø. æ. å.
Wikipedia link, try to make that letter yourself, should be close to the enter key of the keyboard : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Æ

I have tried FreeBSD 10 some time ago, and tried FreeBSD 11 today.

At installment when testing keyboard, these keys does not work.
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Actually, I did see this yesterday, while I was installing FreeBSD 10.2-release from the UEFI memstick image onto my new (uefi) laptop. Normally, I don't bother with testing the keyboard, I just select a Norwegian keyboard layout and continue. But I had this thread in memory, and decided to try testing the keyboard as well. And Psypro is correct; the æ, ø and å characters do not show up in the input field when you press the corresponding keys on the keyboard. Is there an existing PR for this?

After the installation, everything works.
 
Same happens here, trying on an existing system with bsdinstall keymap. dialog works funny, it does not show åäö in the input box (lind ke), but prints the correct typed input out (lind åke) later, after pressing OK. It starts to work if things are changed from 8859 to UTF8.

I see vt(4) does only UTF8. That's sensible. dialog(1) seems to use strlen(3) for cursor positioning though and even splits characters between screen writes. ^L paints the input buffer in one go.

Juha
 
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