well, obviously i come from linux, exactly kubuntu 9.10 amd64, last week i tried osol stable and well nice project but is still useless for a desktop system, after that i said wth let give freebsd a chance, so i get freebsd 8.0 and im semi happy for now.
i have to say ok freebsd kernel is really nice, i dont feel linux is bad or anything but abi unstability is an issue for me but for the rest kubuntu 9.10 is pure awesomeness with some ppa's ofc to fix some minor issues.
about software availability/ease of install/stability well osol sux very very hard, excluding the fact of broken compilers ofc, but here freebsd sux too not as hard as osol ofc.
to be more specific here:
1. install software is a pain in the ass for me a C++ dev dont even think about average joe.
2. availability is very weird, i remember redhat and the lost dependency quest for a special rpm
, and well sometimes you have a bleeding edge build from 1 package or a very old build of another
3. pkg_add* sux, ports like ebuild well i dont like it at all, beside is hard to keep in memory all the stuff installed or available to install, no pkg_info is not useful
so far ok i have my desktop in almost basic shape downloading sources/patches/etc + getting a recent gcc but really freebsd is better at kernel lvl there is not doubt about it in most stuff but at desktop distro lvl linux is kicking freebsd ass so badly that i feel sorry for it.
dont get me wrong im not flaming you guys or anything but i think i have to tell this so it can be solved beside my english is not perfect so some thing may look harsh but translation isnt easy
my 2 cents here is APT, so far i cant see anything superior than apt for software management in the oss or commercial world, i have been using it for 10 years and never let me down, apt is fast, very well supported with tools at graphical or text lvl, repositories are fast and easy to use, deb packaging tool are extremely tested (show me any way faster to build a package that checkinstall), software deploy from local mirror is a dream(really apt-mirror and enter, voila is done), multi plataform for packages and tools (1 repo with any architecture build and apt use the rigth one for your cpu effortless), source/binary/other separations so i dont have to waste disk space if i dont want sources or things like man, lol have you tried PPA- PPA is the shit,and a zillion things more
like i said in osol forum too, stop reinventing the wheel, really pkg_add is going nowhere these days, ok maybe in the dino ages when bsd was the thing pkg_add was awesome but here in the 21 century apt is the way, beside i asure apt is going to provide a very noticeable interest in freebsd very fast, something like the ease of apt/kubuntu with freebsd kernel would be a nice killer combo aka no more abi unstability and driver crash cuz someone rename a function lol, desides that have a central repo and maybe some PPA repos too have to be easier to debug and test that keep hunting patches everywhere, beside the fact is easier to maintainers
i have to say ok freebsd kernel is really nice, i dont feel linux is bad or anything but abi unstability is an issue for me but for the rest kubuntu 9.10 is pure awesomeness with some ppa's ofc to fix some minor issues.
about software availability/ease of install/stability well osol sux very very hard, excluding the fact of broken compilers ofc, but here freebsd sux too not as hard as osol ofc.
to be more specific here:
1. install software is a pain in the ass for me a C++ dev dont even think about average joe.
2. availability is very weird, i remember redhat and the lost dependency quest for a special rpm
, and well sometimes you have a bleeding edge build from 1 package or a very old build of another3. pkg_add* sux, ports like ebuild well i dont like it at all, beside is hard to keep in memory all the stuff installed or available to install, no pkg_info is not useful
so far ok i have my desktop in almost basic shape downloading sources/patches/etc + getting a recent gcc but really freebsd is better at kernel lvl there is not doubt about it in most stuff but at desktop distro lvl linux is kicking freebsd ass so badly that i feel sorry for it.
dont get me wrong im not flaming you guys or anything but i think i have to tell this so it can be solved beside my english is not perfect so some thing may look harsh but translation isnt easy
my 2 cents here is APT, so far i cant see anything superior than apt for software management in the oss or commercial world, i have been using it for 10 years and never let me down, apt is fast, very well supported with tools at graphical or text lvl, repositories are fast and easy to use, deb packaging tool are extremely tested (show me any way faster to build a package that checkinstall), software deploy from local mirror is a dream(really apt-mirror and enter, voila is done), multi plataform for packages and tools (1 repo with any architecture build and apt use the rigth one for your cpu effortless), source/binary/other separations so i dont have to waste disk space if i dont want sources or things like man, lol have you tried PPA- PPA is the shit,and a zillion things more
like i said in osol forum too, stop reinventing the wheel, really pkg_add is going nowhere these days, ok maybe in the dino ages when bsd was the thing pkg_add was awesome but here in the 21 century apt is the way, beside i asure apt is going to provide a very noticeable interest in freebsd very fast, something like the ease of apt/kubuntu with freebsd kernel would be a nice killer combo aka no more abi unstability and driver crash cuz someone rename a function lol, desides that have a central repo and maybe some PPA repos too have to be easier to debug and test that keep hunting patches everywhere, beside the fact is easier to maintainers
