"FreeBSD vs DesktopBSD"

Jeaf

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Hello, everyone, in the last few years I've been doing a lot of tests with Unix systems, and in one of these tests, specifically with desktopBSD systems, I've come across a situation that even though I've been studying a lot about, I really couldn't understand.
How the desktopBSD system, being a UNIX system, achieve the total resolution of my monitor, without using anything but a simple integrated video processor, Core 2 Quad Q8300, 2500 MHz (7.5 x 333).
The already obsolete desktopBSD system initializes at the time of installation a script, which adjusts the image resolution to the largest available for the monitor on which the system is being installed.
And my short question is, why Unix systems do not use the same script for all systems, since it is functional and the only one to achieve this feat.
Thank all those who can have contribute possible opinions, and answers on this matter.
 

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. . . And my short question is, why Unix systems do not use the same script for all systems, since it is functional and the only one to achieve this feat.
The various Unix systems are, of course, independent. They also have different ideas and resources. One of the common issues with FreeBSD and desktop environments is that the most important thing is to keep the high quality of the basic OS - as one would use for a server, for example. With the limited developer resources that we have, there is simply not enough manpower to bring the GUI related ports up to the level that you might find elsewhere.

Oh, and welcome to the forums. :)
 

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And my short question is, why Unix systems do not use the same script for all systems, since it is functional and the only one to achieve this feat.
Care to share this magic script? We can then confirm whether it works with FreeBSD.
 

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How the desktopBSD system, being a UNIX system, achieve the total resolution of my monitor, without using anything but a simple integrated video processor, Core 2 Quad Q8300, 2500 MHz (7.5 x 333).
The monitor returns information over VGA/DVI/HDMI cable about its resolution. The rest is standard and compatibility.
 

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The monitor returns information over VGA/DVI/HDMI cable about its resolution. The rest is standard and compatibility.
Which works very nicely for laptops and single stand-alone systems. To me it's always a real headache since I rarely work without a KVM. It sure would be nice if there was another (simple, not xorg.conf) way to deal with monitors. I know, single laptops are a popular choice these days, and you can't please everybody. :)
 

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Just to be the onion in the basket of apples,
DesktopBSD is a Unix-derivative, desktop-oriented operating system based on FreeBSD. Its goal is to combine the stability of FreeBSD with the ease-of-use of KDE Plasma 5, which is the default graphical user interface
got a use KDE, or it is more suited to KDE out of box experience, which I'd have to kill that first thing.

So it makes me leary to even concider DesktopBSD because of there choice of default DT.
 
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Jeaf

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"Care to share this magic script? We can then confirm whether it works with FreeBSD."

Exactly this question I wanted to read.

Hello Trev, exactly in this point i stopped.
I am not an expert on scripts, actually understand little, merely i found in one of folder's of the desktopBSD system, and also managed to run the script something that is simple.
I run this script using the GhoustBSD system, but since nothing happened, I understood the answer of my dear JO ( thank you very much for the Welcome to the Forum), I understood a little better about how UNIX systems work, perhaps for that reason, of each UNIX system being "unique" in the sense of being independent, the script does not work.
Care to share this magic script? We can then confirm whether it works with FreeBSD.
OBS. I don't write English correctly, if you all don't understand something, please write me.
 
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Jeaf

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I will attach the script, so the user of the Forum and you all that writes "on this theme" can do its tests. I would also love to make this script work, especially in the FreeBSD system, because i could disclose to my students in a more open and clear way, so that each of them, those who have the best financial condition, and the least favored of my country, have in your computers, one System which is a stable, robust, resourceful, very beautiful and mostly Free. Becauseis the main issue of many people using the most commonly used Systems, is mainly because of the fact of the beauty and usability, I believe very much that these two factors contribute to an initial use of the system, and through this, the user will want to know more about the system, leading it to mass results. A very interesting work in the sense of visual beauty and usability is the KDE desktop.
 
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Jeaf

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Script.


If any of you can make this script work on other UNIX systems, such as FreeBSD, which is the OS most used by all UNIX users, the entire community will be immensely grateful, and perhaps become standard on all of UNIX OS.

Because in that sense it would be widely publicized, just like Linux, I think there would be more people working on developing UNIX-based operating systems and applications for it.

I am very grateful to everyone and, once again, if something I have written is unclear, please write me so that I may revise the wording.

NOTE: Clearly reading, it is noticeable that this script works with specific directories and it seems to me that other scripts as well, but as its name "suggests", it is the initial script of all configuration that OS DesktopBSD performs at monitor configuration, leading to one impressive autoconfiguration, setting the screen to the resolution that best fits monitor.
 

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So it makes me leary to even concider DesktopBSD because of there choice of default DT.
Nah, you shouldn't consider DesktopBSD for another and much more important reason, mainly that it has been discontinued 4 years ago and that its core is essentially 9 years old (7.2R or something?), meaning that it has outdated software and an unpatched, unsupported and highly insecure FreeBSD base.
Oh dear, their forum has even been kept online all this time and it seems spammers are having a great time using it for their nefarious business. I wonder why people (the project managers, not the spammers) do that; can't they do Humanity a small service by taking it down?!


Script.

If any of you can make this script work on other UNIX systems, such as FreeBSD
As I've already mentioned above, this last version of DesktopBSD is based on an ancient FreeBSD base and an ancient Xorg. What was it 9 years ago? Xorg 7.4 and xorg-server 1.5.x/1.6.x? Now we're at Xorg 7.7 and xorg-server 1.18.x. Since then a lot of work has been done on drivers both on the Xorg side and on the FreeBSD side. You simply can't compare the two. Also, you haven't clearly mentioned if you're actually using FreeBSD and which version you're using.
The script doesn't seem to do anything magical, that is (still) relevant today, that is not already being done, and that is not mentioned in the Handbook.
Provided you're using one of the latest FreeBSD versions with an up to date Xorg and you're letting it configure on its own, what you're experiencing is more likely due to a regression that crept in somewhere during the past decade.
 
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Jeaf

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Nah, you shouldn't consider DesktopBSD for another and much more important reason, mainly that it has been discontinued 4 years ago and that its core is essentially 9 years old (7.2R or something?), meaning that it has outdated software and an unpatched, unsupported and highly insecure FreeBSD base.
Oh dear, their forum has even been kept online all this time and it seems spammers are having a great time using it for their nefarious business. I wonder why people (the project managers, not the spammers) do that; can't they do Humanity a small service by taking it down?!



As I've already mentioned above, this last version of DesktopBSD is based on an ancient FreeBSD base and an ancient Xorg. What was it 9 years ago? Xorg 7.4 and xorg-server 1.5.x/1.6.x? Now we're at Xorg 7.7 and xorg-server 1.18.x. Since then a lot of work has been done on drivers both on the Xorg side and on the FreeBSD side. You simply can't compare the two. Also, you haven't clearly mentioned if you're actually using FreeBSD and which version you're using.
The script doesn't seem to do anything magical, that is (still) relevant today, that is not already being done, and that is not mentioned in the Handbook.
Provided you're using one of the latest FreeBSD versions with an up to date Xorg and you're letting it configure on its own, what you're experiencing is more likely due to a regression that crept in somewhere during the past decade.
In fact, you didn't understand the core of the subject, or questioning.
I know it is a discontinued system, I wrote this above, read carefully about, and you know about what I question, the title is enclosed in quotation marks.
 
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You don't need anything from that script. It still stems from a time when Xorg didn't quite autodetect everything. It's pretty much obsolete now.
 

OJ

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You don't need anything from that script. It still stems from a time when Xorg didn't quite autodetect everything. It's pretty much obsolete now.
I don't know how that script works, but since Xorg doesn't detect anything (in my experience) when using a KVM, something certainly would be nice to have.
 

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You don't need anything from that script. It still stems from a time when Xorg didn't quite autodetect everything. It's pretty much obsolete now.
At present it is still wonderful how it detects the DestopBSD that this discontinued years. The good thing should be copied from that script to the FreeBSD graphical environment and not be so cumbersome its configuration by hand.
 
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