Solved FreeBSD 14 is ready?

[wolffnx]

I ask this beacuse I see FreeBSD-14-RELEASE isos , but in Freebsd main site I dont see the 14.0 in "Production" link

 

[smithi]

Sounds like things are being done in the correct order, then.

 

[sko]

FreeBSD 14.0 Release Process

FreeBSD is an operating system used to power modern servers, desktops, and embedded platforms.

www.freebsd.org

Release announcement is scheduled for today. There still might be a delay of a few hours until everything on the project website is updated.
Of course the images and ports have to be in place at the time the announcement goes live, so those are usually visible on mirrors a few hours/days before the announcement.

 

[rmomota]

The world is waiting!
Is it straight forward the upgrade from 13.2p5 to 14 ?

 

[tho]

I did the update 6 hours ago:

FreeBSD backup 14.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 14.0-RELEASE #0 releng/14.0-n265380-f9716eee8ab4: Fri Nov 10 05:57:23 UTC 2023 root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC amd64

Just followed the recepie from RC4 and just omitted the RC4 ( freebsd-update upgrade -r 14.0). The update took a while and there was a few minor issues with dynamic libraries and pkg and sudo. Did a update with the pkg-static (pkg-static install -f pkg) and after that everything works...

 

[wolffnx]

I install 14.0 just now and finish configure it (install from scrach like allways)
works just fine, the only strange was that portsnap was not included in the base system
so..I install from ports

the boot time is a little faster..yes
and after compile my kernel config plus src.conf is insane

the installer in uefi mode looks pretty good
so far..so good
good work guys!!!!! like allways, fast,simple and clean, I love it

 

[SirDice]

the only strange was that portsnap was not included in the base system

Not strange, it's known in advance it would get removed in 14 onward.

 

[wolffnx]

Not strange, it's known in advance it would get removed in 14 onward.

Strange for me, that not read the release and changes notes

 

[jardows]

Just started upgrading a couple of machines. Yay!

 

[SirDice]

Strange for me, that not read the release and changes notes

It was announced three years ago.

portsnap being retired - what's the alternative?

Hi, portsnap being retired: https://marc.info/?l=freebsd-ports&m=159656662608767&w=2 I use "portsnap fetch extract" on a new install, and "portsnap fetch update" to get updates - does anyone know what the alternatives are to those? I'll go digging and might answer my own question soon. Thanks.

forums.freebsd.org

 

[wolffnx]

It was announced three years ago.

portsnap being retired - what's the alternative?

Hi, portsnap being retired: https://marc.info/?l=freebsd-ports&m=159656662608767&w=2 I use "portsnap fetch extract" on a new install, and "portsnap fetch update" to get updates - does anyone know what the alternatives are to those? I'll go digging and might answer my own question soon. Thanks.

forums.freebsd.org

good to know

 

[rmomota]

so all I have to do is a
1. backup
then
# freebsd-update -r 14.0-RELEASE upgrade
# nextboot -k GENERIC
# shutdown -r now
cross fingers
# freebsd-update install

And that's it?

 

[SirDice]

Don't need the nextboot(8) command if you're not using a custom kernel.

 

[rmomota]

Don't need the nextboot(8) command if you're not using a custom kernel.

seems compatible with this

https://www.cyberciti.biz/open-source/how-to-upgrade-freebsd-13-1-to-13-2-release/

here they skip the nextboot also

I will follow this one then, thanks!

 

[astyle]

good to know

Y'know, if you like portsnap, it's still in ports: ports-mgmt/portsnap... it's just not in base any more, you have to install it separately.

 

[SirDice]

Oh, and you need to run freebsd-update install a total of three times. First install only updates the kernel, second install updates the userland (aka "world"), third and final install removes old libraries and such. Run your package/port upgrades before running the third install.

 

[rmomota]

Got this
The following components of FreeBSD seem to be installed:
kernel/generic kernel/generic-dbg src/src world/base world/lib32

The following components of FreeBSD do not seem to be installed:
world/base-dbg world/lib32-dbg

Does this look reasonable (y/n)?

seems to be some debug libraries that are missing, what happens if I chose 'n' ?
I should install those missing ones?

EDITED:
anyway I just selected 'y', debug libs should not be a problem during the upgrade process.

 

[SirDice]

seems to be some debug libraries that are missing, what happens if I chose 'n' ?

The upgrade stops.

I should install those missing ones?

You don't need them if you don't regularly debug the base utilities.

 

[rmomota]

suggestion.... the fetching patches could show % instead of a count one by one, in fact it's 10 by 10.
it's known the total of patches that will fetch and it's known the patches it already fetch so the elements for the % are here.
why?
well, I got away for 10 minutes and when I returned I had to scroll up just to know what was done before.

 

[wolffnx]

Y'know, if you like portsnap, it's still in ports: ports-mgmt/portsnap... it's just not in base any more, you have to install it separately.

thanks,yes, and also is available in packages

 

[astyle]

thanks,yes, and also is available in packages

ports ARE actually where the packages come from, lol.

 

[SirDice]

Just keep in mind that the infrastructure portsnap(8) uses will get removed at some point too. So the best way forward is to migrate to some other tool. git(1) is best, gitup(1) is also a nice tool.

 

[astyle]

Oh, and you need to run freebsd-update install a total of three times. First install only updates the kernel, second install updates the userland (aka "world"), third and final install removes old libraries and such. Run your package/port upgrades before running the third install.

BTW, it helps to keep track of the steps... Doing stuff out of order (or not completing the sequence) can result in unpredictable errors and predictable complaining on Forums...which is why following the Handbook is standard recommendation on these Forums.

 

[dbdemon]

freebsd-update upgrade -r 14.0

freebsd-update -r 14.0-RELEASE upgrade

I tried 14.0-RELEASE unsuccessfully multiple times over the weekend. Maybe it's just 14.0 now, as tho seems to say? Or maybe I was just too early. I guess I will find out.

 

[wolffnx]

Just keep in mind that the infrastructure portsnap(8) uses will get removed at some point too. So the best way forward is to migrate to some other tool. git(1) is best, gitup(1) is also a nice tool.

thanks for the tip, I will check it out