Firefox 10 is available on FreeBSD

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Firefox 10 was released just few days ago. I've noticed that is already available in FreeBSD's Ports. Just cvsup/svn your ports tree.

Here's an article on Ars Technica on Firefox 10:

http://arstechnica.com/business/new...es-with-new-dev-tools-and-full-screen-api.ars

"Mozilla has officially released Firefox 10. The new version of the open source Web browser includes a handful of improvements and new features. The browser's built-in tools for Web developers got a particularly significant boost in this release. The new version also offers better support for a number of Web standards."
 
The new version of the open source Web browser includes a handful of improvements and new features.
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Too bad one of the improvements wasn't reduced memory usage*.

Code: 
  PID USERNAME    THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE   C   TIME   WCPU COMMAND
 7836 jrm          23  44    0   843M   536M ucond   3   9:21  0.00% firefox-bin
18314 jrm           3  44    0    98M 76848K ucond       0:04  0.00% opera

Opera's keybindings are quite customizable, but it's not nearly as powerful as what you can get with the firefox addon pentadactyl.

* This memory comparison isn't really fair. Firefox was running longer and on a host with more memory, but this is generally what I see.
 
I like how they think that extended service release for enterprise customers is realistic at 12 months.


And to touch on what gkontos said, I just downloaded FF10 and ran it back to back with IE9 on my work PC.

IE9 used 20mb less ram with 4 tabs open.... (129mb vs 149mb). I'll also add that the copy of IE9 had been open all day, and Firefox had been running for about 15 minutes...


If Safari isn't available on the box I'm using, I'll stick with Chromium too, thanks (I'm addicted to cover flow history :D)
 
throAU said:
And to touch on what gkontos said, I just downloaded FF10 and ran it back to back with IE9 on my work PC.

IE9 used 20mb less ram with 4 tabs open.... (129mb vs 149mb).
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Much of IE's functionality is part of the operating system and other running dlls and aren't listed with the running program in "task manager". Firefox had a large reduction in memory usage beginning with FF4 and specifically those following.

IE is an incompetent browser. Years behind all others in modern standards and practices. It's the worst browser on the planet. It holds back the web. No one should use IE.

If Safari isn't available on the box I'm using, I'll stick with Chromium too
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As someone showed earlier, Chrome can use as much, if not more, memory as the others because each tab runs in its own process and as they add up it can become larger. The advantage is a tab can crash without affecting the whole browser in some cases.
 
What about opera? I remember while ago it was fastest from all three. Any reason to switch to chromium instead of opera?
Firefox is way to sluggish for me even on high end hardware compared to opera.
 
Nowadays browser choice is personal preference. All browsers work pretty much the same from a user point of view. Even as a developer, they're all pretty close except for IE which, as I implied, is a steaming pile of crud.
 
Ofcourse, I'm not trying to start browser flamewar here. It's just that opera always felt more faster with smallest footprint than all others. Frankly I'd try using other browser so I can try OpenBSD again, which doesn't work nicely with Opera, but I can't. Opera is where it's at for *nix. Firefox is rubbish.
 
Opera is an excellent browser. Firefox is bigger cause it can do so much more. It's highly configurable and programmable. Kind of like comparing vi to emacs.
 
bbzz said:
Ofcourse, I'm not trying to start browser flamewar here. It's just that opera always felt more faster with smallest footprint than all others. Frankly I'd try using other browser so I can try OpenBSD again, which doesn't work nicely with Opera, but I can't. Opera is where it's at for *nix. Firefox is rubbish.
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Opera is fast, however its interface is a little quirky, and enough webpages fail to function properly that its a pain to use in real life.

It doesn't matter that its more standards compliant or not, if my pages don't work then i can't use them.
 
I strongly believe that browsers are addictive, no kidding!

I admit being a Firefox addict for at least 5 years.

Below you can see last month's browser stats from my blog. I am very encouraged by the fact that IE is last ;)

Code: 
[B]Browser	Visits[/B]

Firefox	2758
Chrome	2267
Safari	853
Opera	490
IE      274
 
drhowarddrfine said:
Opera is an excellent browser. Firefox is bigger cause it can do so much more. It's highly configurable and programmable. Kind of like comparing vi to emacs.
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I'm not trying to be rhetorical, but what can firefox do that opera can't?

This is one of the reasons I stick with firefox: Opera's End User License Agreement.
 
bbzz said:
Why what part is wrong?
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Have a peak at 3. LICENSE RESTRICTIONS AND THIRD-PARTY SOFTWARE. I understand their motivations, but I would prefer to use software that I can, if I choose, "reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble, or otherwise attempt to derive the source code for the Software".
 
I carry two browsers (actually 3) on my OpenBSD desktop. Firefox 5.0 in OpenBSD5.0, xxxterm 1.9.0 because it uses an alternative rendering engine and gives me more fully supported html5 (h.264, WebM and Video Tags).The xxxterm user agent is set at Apple Webkit. Lastly, the Lynx Browser that comes with the base OpenBSD install. My FreeBSD box is setup the same way but with FF 9.01 (I would upgrade but would prefer binaries in FreeBSD-release) and I did not bother to put in Lynx.
 
throAU said:
Opera is fast, however its interface is a little quirky, and enough webpages fail to function properly that its a pain to use in real life.

It doesn't matter that its more standards compliant or not, if my pages don't work then i can't use them.
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Using past versions, many pages would not render properly. v11.nn, everything seems to be fixed, but that did not happen until the install crashed, reinstalled itself, etc. Tried to upgrade past this 11.nn but had issues (another post maybe). I use it for nine/tenths of the pages, the other part in seamonkey. (Past versions I used the workaround authormode > usermode toggle button which is on the toolbar still but I hardly ever use now. ) (Also have
Code: 
opera-next
(/opera-devel/) installed. )
 
drhowarddrfine said:
@throAU - What sites don't work in Opera? In almost all cases, it's a problem with the site and not the browser.
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Internal intranet style apps. Device configuration webpages. You can sometimes work around the problems, sometimes not.

I agree it is probably a problem with the site, however the cause of the issue doesn't really matter to me as an end user. If the browser doesn't "work" with mission critical stuff, then I can't use it. Irrespective of where the root cause of the problem lies.
 
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