Demand Discord Inc. compliance on consumer rights

Hello. I've opened a petition for demanding Discord Inc. compliance on consumer rights. I'm a user of the Discord platform. Recently, I tried sending a friend request, and the platform asked me for e-mail verification, twice. The third time, I was asked to verify my phone number. And that's where the problem began. I cannot verify my phone number, and I can't tell whether it's registered in another account or not. I'm not presented an error at all. The company's proposed solution is to create a new account. However, sooner or later, in a new account, I may be asked to verify my phone number, and, again, result in a locked account.

This is a major redress issue. Not only does that attack the right to redress, but also the local federal law on data protection, LGPD. I'm a resident of Brazil, and I know my rights on data deletion. The company refused to delete my data, for security reasons. However, their privacy policy doesn't override the local federal law on data protection.

First, I was told there's none solution. Then, I was told the solution is to create a new account. The company's proposed solution, to create a new account, is ineffective and represents a failure to provide me with a proper remedy. The support process has violated my right to be heard, by failing to give my specific issue genuine consideration. It has violated my right to be informed, by providing me with misleading and improper instructions. It has compromised my right to choose, by failing to offer a valid solution for my existing account. These failures represent a breach of my right to redress.

I've opened a complaint on various consumer protection authorities, including eConsumer, FTC and BCA. BCA contacted the company, twice, yet they were unable to respond. This is an absurd.

The company does recognize the LGPD, yet they refuse to help. Very stupid.

I suggest anybody experiencing similar issues to open a complaint on various consumer protection authorities. And I'd appreciate for signings on my petition. Thanks in advance.

Business Consumer Alliance.

Federal Trade Commission.

eConsumer.

Protecting American Consumers Together.

Consumers Defense.

Better Business Bureau.
 
Perhaps your time would be better spent moving (back) to open platforms like IRC and re-building your communties there?

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"IRC" doesn't have anything on Discord. You'd need
  • ZNC
  • centralized AAA
  • attachments
  • voice and video chat integrated into the same AAA system
  • Install-one-app for the above
But yes, the bargain is that you don't have any control when things go sideways
 
it depends, i know Konversation does store part of the chat history (the last 10 messages by default, i think?) before you close it, but it won't keep track of the chat during the time it remained closed if that's what you're looking for
i wish the latter was possible but i'm guessing it's an IRC thing rather, as other clients i tried did the same
 
I'm a user of the Discord platform. Recently, I tried sending a friend request, and the platform asked me for e-mail verification, twice. The third time, I was asked to verify my phone number. And that's where the problem began. I cannot verify my phone number, and I can't tell whether it's registered in another account or not.
I had something similar happen and I tried to not add a phone number; even with 2FA I had to add a phone number, and Discord went further by denying VOIP numbers (I use a Google Voice number for less-important stuff).

I'd sign a petition, but I'm not sure it'd go anywhere (Discord's too-big worldwide to fall (Nepal) and no active user would want it to). Only reason I have a Discord is for game projects that insist on using it for easy "secrecy".


I remember when Discord was starting out they had ads trying to present themselves better than Mumble; it was gross, but those ads weren't around long. I used Xfire, Raptr, and Evolve and feel those were good for the isolated purpose of video game-related chats/features, but Discord advertised itself as a gaming client that's now used by others for any generic thing.
 
These failures represent a breach of my right to redress.
You might want to take it up with the Brazilian authorities if you think Discord is violating your rights under Brazilian laws &/or get some legal advise from a Brazilian lawyer. The links you provided at the end all seem to be for US sites. They don't care about Brazilian laws.
 
I had something similar happen and I tried to not add a phone number; even with 2FA I had to add a phone number, and Discord went further by denying VOIP numbers (I use a Google Voice number for less-important stuff).
yeah i remember trying to make an alt account for myself on discord and it'd keep asking me for a phone number and i couldn't use the one i have on my main account nor use a burner one just to get the verification code, so i just gave up altogether
like what even is the point of wanting my phone number if you're not even gonna send me anything even regarding app updates or something, if it was only for 2FA i'd understand

I'd sign a petition, but I'm not sure it'd go anywhere (Discord's too-big worldwide to fall (Nepal) and no active user would want it to).
agree, i really doubt any of those c.org petitions actually go anywhere, even for more local stuff

I remember when Discord was starting out they had ads trying to present themselves better than Mumble; it was gross, but those ads weren't around long. I used Xfire, Raptr, and Evolve and feel those were good for the isolated purpose of video game-related chats/features, but Discord advertised itself as a gaming client that's now used by others for any generic thing.
i didn't join discord exactly at its beginnings but it was a little before everyone started using it (oh the pandemic), and even tho' i wasn't using it for gaming i do now think it should have been kept as a gamers-only platform after all that stuff that's been going on with it
 
[begin sarcasm] Good luck with that! [end sarcasm]

I never joined facebook, discord,... in the first place. Don't need to be a clairvoyant to see where this was leading to. And I can only laugh when there again is a public discussion: "They are spying on us, stealing our data, and sell those!"
Dude, what do you think where their money come from? By providing large server infrastructures by pure altruism for free?
I once read somewhere:"When you don't pay for a service, you are not the customer. You are the product."
The game is always the same: Gain customers for free. When enough went into the trap: milk the cow.
It's up to you, and only you, if you think you depend on it, or find an alternative, which there are.
That's called self responsibility. That's what an adult is all about.

I recently was kicked out of paypal - don't know why, don't know how, they simply don't accept my login anymore I used for many years. Now they want me to identify additionally over my smartphone - for "security reasons", of course. Yeah. Right. 🧐
I don't have a smart phone (the biggest trap of the last twenty years). So I need to chose others ways to pay. If they don't want me anymore, well, goodbye then. And if a shop does not provide other pay methods than paypal, so I buy at another place. It's so simple.
I always say: "If your are not satisfied with me anymore, I simply go elsewhere."
That's exactly the whole point about free market economy.

Don't complain! Make free markets work!
 
how do you live without a smartphone
Pretty well.
The astonishing part is: You are actually the very first, asking me that question. Anybody else gives me an envying look, and say:"I wish I could, too." :cool:
I dare say I live better than all those "slaves of their smartphones" - those numb zombies everywhere:
I don't have to look at a little monitor all the time, don't get the feeling I missed something when I did not looked at it for three minutes, I don't need to eat cold food hastily en passent, because I first have to make a foto of it, post it, and then have to react to the 'likes' I receive - I enjoy the food. When I'm on holidays I am on holidays, and not somewhere to feed my smartphone.
I just can sit there and enjoy playing with the sparrows without the urge to "save every moment of my life for eternity in some cloud" which nobody, at least myself will ever take a look at - because there is no time for it, you have to save the current moment... 🤪

Short:
I live.
And not for feeding my "Tamagotchi"😁😎:beer::beer::beer:
 
[begin sarcasm] Good luck with that! [end sarcasm]

I never joined facebook, discord,...
Me neither. And neither I joined Mastodon, MySpace, Instagram, BlueSky, X, TikTok, Truth, Threads, Snapchat, Telegram, Reddit, Pinterest, Quora, Twitch.......

I just don't understand the need of them. There are so many 🤣🤣🤣

[Disclosure: I have an old Twitter account on which I set a password I never activated and used a non existing cell number as a fallback method, just to be sure that noone else could set it up. I never used it, it was just because I once read that there were bots that were registering tons of Twitter accounts all at once with real names and fake emails]
 
Me neither. And neither I joined Mastodon, MySpace, Instagram, BlueSky, X, TikTok, Truth, Threads, Snapchat, Telegram, Reddit, Pinterest, Quora, Twitch.......

I just don't understand the need of them. There are so many 🤣🤣🤣

[Disclosure: I have an old Twitter account on which I set a password I never activated and used a non existing cell number as a fallback method, just to be sure that noone else could set it up. I never used it, it was just because I once read that there were bots that were registering tons of Twitter accounts all at once with real names and fake emails]
Yeah there's way too-many choices for social media; I just host my own :p (Friendica/ActivityPub)

I dare say I live better than all those "slaves of their smartphones" - those numb zombies everywhere:
I almost wish I got more use out of my phone; I bought a OnePlus 6 for the specs thinking I'd be able to throw anything imaginable at it, but meanwhile it usually sits on charge for rare message notifications :p
 
Can a server retain the chat logs and present to clients when they connect?
Maybe they could but that is not generally how IRC works. It is a like a realtime scrolling bulletin board. IRC channels serve conversations. Interaction is optional.
There might be some lag sometimes logging in catching up to conversations.

I only used xchat then hexchat for IRC. None of that other stuff.
 
OnePlus 6
I have no idea what this is (and I don't care. 😁) If you asked me "What's the current iPhone number?" as the 50.000$ question I had to take the joker 😂
No idea. And I don't give a ...

I once went into the german version of "radio barn" and asked for a smartphone (I wanted to buy a Palm Treo 650)
Seller: "A what?"
Me:"A smartphone. It's a combined device of a hand held computer, and a mobile phone. I'm pretty sure you sell those." 😂

When the first iPhone got out I got me one myself, and I said:"That's exactly how these things have to be designed, and to work!"
I spare you a long post of details (and me the "That's not true!" discussion afterwards.) So short:
After a couple of months I realized:
What I wanna do with this thing I cannot.
And what this thing does to me I don't want.

Not I have to react to the machine, the machine has to sit there idle, and quiet until I give the machine something to do. Then the machine has just to do the job, and don't start any discussions about it.
The computer is my slave, and I am his master. Not vice versa.
End of story.
 
Sorry, but if OP is in Brazil, this smells very strongly of geo-politics.

With recent news of Uncle Sam using rockets on a Venezuelan boat (under the assumption of the boat being involved in activities that violate international law), it's just not out of question for Brazil to have its share of tensions with Uncle Sam.

Discord is in San Francisco, BTW, which is within US borders. And yes, that matters here.

WhatsApp has been shut down in a few countries, in case anyone is aware. I am a WhatsApp user, that is of interest to me, so I pay attention and connect the dots.

After Bolsonaro's ouster in 2022, and current Trump Adminsitration's attempts to impose tariffs on just about every country in the world, US-Brazil relations are frankly on rocky grounds right now... So I just don't think that OP has very many options left beyond keeping their eyes peeled and stubbornly seeing things through to the bitter end. Trying to scream about having consumer rights - that is, unfortunately, irrelevant when you got geo-political tensions between two sovereign countries over a very different bone of contention.

I mean, especially when the service is free of charge for whatever reason. WhatsApp is free of charge, so is Discord - you get what you pay for.

How do you think Brazil even has Internet in the first place, considering that the Internet itself is an American invention that Al Gore paid US Army to develop? Physical location of the cables is a pretty strong barganing chip on the diplomatic table.
 
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