CPU temperature

Thinkpad T495 I have from may 2021 with FreeBSD 15.0-RELEASE-p5.
I checking CPU Temp with Conky and Htop.
Usually is temperature between 40 - 46 C, on depend what I am doing. Usually when I start Firefox or Waterfox it jumps to 50 - 52 C and is going down. I have a script from vermaden in cron and it works. I can hear different speeds and temp is going down .
I run powerd and settings are from handbook now:
Code:
powerd_enable="YES"
powerd_flags="-a hiadaptive -i 25 -r 85 -N"
I did try without powerd but that it keep the higher frequency and I try with
Code:
 powerd_flags="-a adaptive -b adaptive -n adaptive"
which more or less stay on the lowest freq.
Is it time to check the fan, thermal paste?

Thank you.

P.S.
I never open laptop because this one is my first one and I do not want to make some damage.
 
It's probably just dust in the cooler's ribs.
Remove the bottom plate (see below), take one of those dust blower air cans, and blow it out.
Whith high probability the job is done.

Thermal paste is a critical beast. You need to disassemble the cooler from the CPU, which is within a laptop not as simple as within a desktop or tower PC. And afterwards re-assemble everything again correctly, which can be tricky with a laptop. Clean the old paste pretty well (don't mix up different pastes.) And be carful where you smear it. Those pastes are not really healthy.
Also there is lots of "voodoo" about thermal paste (compound actually), which you cannot wipe out with facts. Lots of this stuff is advertised with completely bogus values for thermal resistance. Arctic's MX-4 is in middle price range and the best thermal compound I know so far. They don't give you a value for the thermal resistance of their product (anymore), because if they'd give the true real value (which is pretty good) they cannot compete with all those made up bogus fantasy values of competitor's way more expensive "wonder" pastes. Tip: touch two different pastes (Don't smear it on your skin!) The one feels cooler has the better value, no matter what the producer tells or writes about his magic wonder stuff. Additionally almost all people I've seen so far, even real hardware pros in YT videos, all use way too much paste ("The more the better." Wrong!) The paste shall only close the few, very small air gaps, but not separate the cooler from the CPU swimming on a film of paste. No paste - no matter how fantastic its wonder values are - is better than the direct contact bare metal to bare metal.

But, as I said, I suspect just dust.

P.S.
I never open laptop because this one is my first one and I do not want to make some damage.
I had opened several of those. You need the right tools: fitting, not total low quality screw drivers, and also a plektrum can be of good use. Most important tools are sensitivity, carefulness and patience - never ever use brute force! If it can not unfixed without any force, you still have not found a screw or hook that needs to be unfastend first (There is always at least one screw below a sticker or another kind of seal you need to break [guarantee loss.])
If you don't have the total exotic special thing it's almost certain you will find detailed instructions for opening, disassembling, and resassembling on the net, mostly YT.
Search for and watch such first: You'll see: If you have the right tools, be careful, and not completely un-handy, it's no biggy.
At least to open the bottom cover to exchange storage drive, RAM or WLAN modules, or blow out dust. Remove cooler or the mainboard is a complete other beast.

Also: Avoid to touch directly on the electronics boards. For just cleaning it, you don't need to touch any electronics at all. And when exchanging modules, only touch the edges. There is a danger of high voltage electrostatics discharge from your body, which can destroy electronic parts.
If you do such things better have some anti-static grounding wrist strap you can get for a few bucks.

But again:
First just clean it from dust, before you even think of thermal paste. For that you don't need to disassemble much. With most devices you just need to remove the bottom's enclosure plate.

But if you don't feel safe about it, check some smart phone repair shop; for those guys a laptop is kindergarden, and I guess they will open and clean it for you within 15 minutes for a small fee.
 
Arctic's MX-4 is the best thermal compound I know so far.
It did ok; I liked Arctic Silver 5 and IC Diamond though for having particles that sound pretty cool :p (haven't seen any paste that did anything notably different with temps though; even Kryonaut)

I'd do a CPU stress test and watch what temps do from idle across all cores; if it does like 40C -> 90C in 1s it'd probably benefit from a repaste. If 3 cores are around 70C with 1 at 95C I'd repaste.


My i5-8400H idles 50C (turbo no pstates), jumps to 90C instantly with a stress test, but turbo clocks slowly drop while it maintains around 80-90C during the high CPU load (high temps for a laptop but within Intel's CPU spec, and it's been fine for years :p); closing the stress test has it quickly drop like 30C and back to max turbo clocks.

Depending on how dynamic frequency works on a specific CPU, high temps might be fine in a laptop. If it spiked to 100C+ PROCHOT should kick-in and shut down the computer (that'd for sure benefit from a repaste or better heatsink).


This says the max CPU temp is 105C (Ryzen 5 Pro 3500U): https://www.amd.com/en/support/down...yzen/ryzen-3000-series/amd-ryzen-5-3500u.html (50C doesn't sound concerning)
 
Chosing a good cooler and a fan a number larger than the bare minimum, and use the least amount of compound just necessary to close the few tiny microgaps is 90% of a good cooling design. Chosing a good paste is 10%. Chosing some magic wonder paste is bogus, especially when one believes a compound could compensate a cheap cooler and a weak fan.

My slightly modified water cooler, six 140mm fans as push-pull instead of the default three; average temperature at normal workload 28°C, when compiling ~58°C :cool:
 
It did ok; I liked Arctic Silver 5 and IC Diamond though for having particles that sound pretty cool :p (haven't seen any paste that did anything notably different with temps though; even Kryonaut)

I'd do a CPU stress test and watch what temps do from idle across all cores; if it does like 40C -> 90C in 1s it'd probably benefit from a repaste. If 3 cores are around 70C with 1 at 95C I'd repaste.


My i5-8400H idles 50C (turbo no pstates), jumps to 90C instantly with a stress test, but turbo clocks slowly drop while it maintains around 80-90C during the high CPU load (high temps for a laptop but within Intel's CPU spec, and it's been fine for years :p); closing the stress test has it quickly drop like 30C and back to max turbo clocks.

Depending on how dynamic frequency works on a specific CPU, high temps might be fine in a laptop. If it spiked to 100C+ PROCHOT should kick-in and shut down the computer (that'd for sure benefit from a repaste or better heatsink).


This says the max CPU temp is 105C (Ryzen 5 Pro 3500U): https://www.amd.com/en/support/down...yzen/ryzen-3000-series/amd-ryzen-5-3500u.html (50C doesn't sound concerning)
Which app did you use for stress test? Is it
sysutils/stress or something other?
 
Which app did you use for stress test?
Easiest, and best way to test your cooling is to put your CPU under max load for quite a while (>1/2h),
which can be done very simple: build world, or a large package from ports (packages mostly written in C++ or Rust bring a good amount of load to be built.)
 
Easiest, and best way to test your cooling is to put your CPU under max load for quite a while (>1/2h), which can be done very simple: build world, or a large package from ports (packages mostly written in C++ or Rust bring a good amount of load to be built.)

I will try tomorrow. I did try to run clamscan -r and CPU was 13 - 14% and temperature jump to 56 C and after fan start to run it dropped to 45 C.
 
after fan start to run it dropped to 45 C.
Don't see the temperatures I gave as a reference. My cooling system is extravagant, overstated.
I was trying to reduce noise, not doing some overclocking or lowest temperature reached contest BS.
(Now, since I have it, of course I don't disassemble it again as long as it works.)

Any CPU's temperature below 80°C is of no real concern at all.
And laptops are always very compromising between size, power, battery capacity and price. A laptop's CPU running below 35°C at medium workloads can be accused to have a design error, to be optimized at the wrong edge. Because such can only be reached by a complete inflated, total overkill, most high tech cooling system - if even - for the cost of having "the rest" to suffer, or say it otherwise: BS
45°C CPU temp at common workloads is not just "OK", but very good. Especially in a laptop. (My laptop ain't that cool, not even with almost no load.)

Clamscan brings more load to the drive(s) than the CPU.
 
Is it time to check the fan, thermal paste?
For yourThinkPad T495 with AMD Ryzen (Pro 3000 series) processor, the temperature readings described are excellent.
Your laptop will remain safe as long as temperatures under load don't exceed 85–90°C. The critical temperature (Tjunction) for Ryzen 3000 Mobile chips is 105°C.
 
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