Video Driver Issues (Resolution and KDE3/4)

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ok so i've tried kde4 and it won't boot at all on my system. so I wipped everything and put kde3.5 back. so this is the situation.

fresh install of 7.0-RELEASE, upgraded to 7.1-RELEASE, portsnap'd, installed kde 3.5, portmaster -a.

I have an onboard intel videocard, disabled, and am using a Radeon 2400 HD (PCI not PCIe).

These are the results I have using KRandRTray.

Vesa Driver (on RadeonHD)
Resolutions:
1280x1024 @ 61Hz
1152x864 @ 76Hz
1024x768 @ 85Hz

RadeonHD Driver (on RadeonHD)
Resolutions:
1024x768 @ 61Hz

Vesa Driver (on Intel)
Resolutions:
1280x1024 @ 61Hz
1024x768 @ 85Hz

Intel Driver (on Intel)
Resolutions:
1152x864 @ 75Hz
1024x768 @ 85Hz

i810 Driver (on Intel)
Resolutions:
1152x864 @ 75Hz
1024x768 @ 85Hz

I really want to run my RadeonHD at something higher then 1024x768 (can't even see higher if unless i use vesa). I have tried to force it, and force the refresh rate.

Is it the card itself, or the drivers, the monitor, or what?
And is this why I can't seem to get kde4 to boot?
 
How, exactly, have you tried to force it? You should be able to add modelines to the monitor section to get them added to xrandr and use the PreferredMode option to get X to use one of those modes by default.

I've done this with the 'radeon' driver (which you could also use) but I'm pretty sure this is possible for any xrandr 1.2 capable driver (which includes radeonhd).

And, no, I'm sure this has nothing to do with KDE4 not working.

Adam
 
Ok, I forgot to mention the Radeon Card has 2 DVI outputs, and an S-Video Output, I always have the S-Video connected to my TV, and my monitor hooked up with a DVI-to-VGA adapter, and when I "identify monitors" with KRandRTay. my actual monitor shows up at number 2 :S

This is how I tried to force it... Im Assuming I did it wrong.
Code: 
Section "ServerLayout"
	Identifier     "X.org Configured"
	Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
	Screen      1  "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0"
	InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
	InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
	RgbPath      "/usr/local/share/X11/rgb"
	ModulePath   "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"
	FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
	FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"
	FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF"
	FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
	FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
	FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
	Load  "GLcore"
	Load  "dbe"
	Load  "dri"
	Load  "extmod"
	Load  "glx"
	Load  "record"
	Load  "xtrap"
	Load  "freetype"
	Load  "type1"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier  "Keyboard0"
	Driver      "kbd"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier  "Mouse0"
	Driver      "mouse"
	Option	    "Protocol" "auto"
	Option	    "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
	Option	    "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier   "Monitor0"
	VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
	ModelName    "Monitor Model"
	HorizSync    30-107
        VertRefresh  48-120
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier   "Monitor1"
	VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
	ModelName    "Monitor Model"
	HorizSync    30-107
	VertRefresh  48-120
EndSection

Section "Device"
        ### Available Driver options are:-
        ### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
        ### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
        ### [arg]: arg optional
        #Option     "NoAccel"            	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "AccelMethod"        	# [<str>]
        #Option     "offscreensize"      	# [<str>]
        #Option     "SWcursor"           	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "ignoreconnector"    	# [<str>]
        #Option     "forcereduced"       	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "forcedpi"           	# <i>
        #Option     "useconfiguredmonitor" 	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "HPD"                	# <str>
        #Option     "NoRandr"            	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "RRUseXF86Edid"      	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "RROutputOrder"      	# [<str>]
        #Option     "TVMode"             	# [<str>]
	Identifier  "Card0"
	Driver      "radeonhd"
	VendorName  "ATI Technologies Inc"
	BoardName   "Unknown Board"
	BusID       "PCI:2:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
        ### Available Driver options are:-
        ### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
        ### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
        ### [arg]: arg optional
        #Option     "NoAccel"            	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "SWcursor"           	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "ColorKey"           	# <i>
        #Option     "CacheLines"         	# <i>
        #Option     "Dac6Bit"            	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "DRI"                	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "NoDDC"              	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "ShowCache"          	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "XvMCSurfaces"       	# <i>
        #Option     "PageFlip"           	# [<bool>]
	Identifier  "Card1"
	Driver      "i810"
	VendorName  "Intel Corporation"
	BoardName   "82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device"
	BusID       "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier "Screen0"
	Device     "Card0"
	Monitor    "Monitor0"
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     24
		Modes     "1280x1024"
	EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier "Screen1"
	Device	   "Card0"
	Monitor	   "Monitor1"
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     24
		Modes     "1280x1024"
	EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier "Screen0"
	Device     "Card1"
	Monitor    "Monitor0"
	Subsection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     24
		Modes     "1280x1024"
	EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier "Screen1"
	Device     "Card1"
	Monitor    "Monitor1"
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     24
		Modes	  "1280x1024"
	EndSubSection
EndSection

Basically I tried to set all of them to 1280x1024. Because I can't figure out which settings are for which monitor.
 
Its still in the xorg config because it has been there from the beginning, and because I've been testing both back and forth. When I install bsd it detects both and installs them. So, I just leave it there because I figured its not hurting anything.

I'll check out that link and get back to ya, thanks.
 
Code: 
Section "ServerLayout"
        Identifier     "My Configuration"
        Screen         "Default Screen"
        InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
        InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
        RgbPath      "/usr/local/share/X11/rgb"
        ModulePath   "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"
        FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
        FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"
        FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF"
        FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
        FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
        FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
        Load  "GLcore"
        Load  "dbe"
        Load  "dri"
        Load  "extmod"
        Load  "glx"
        Load  "record"
        Load  "xtrap"
        Load  "freetype"
        Load  "type1"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Keyboard0"
        Driver      "kbd"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Mouse0"
        Driver      "mouse"
        Option      "Protocol" "auto"
        Option      "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
        Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier   "DELL"
        DisplaySize  304 228
        Modeline "1280x1024_60.00" 108.88  1280 1360 1496 1712  1024 1025 1028 1
060  -HSync +Vsync
        Option "PreferredMode" "1280x1024_60.00"
EndSection

Section "Device"
        ### Available Driver options are:-
        ### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
        ### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
        ### [arg]: arg optional
        Option     "Ignore" "true"
        #Option     "NoAccel"                   # [<bool>]
        Option     "AccelMethod" "EXA"          # [<str>]
        #Option     "AccelMethod"               # [<str>]
        #Option     "offscreensize"             # [<str>]
        #Option     "SWcursor"                  # [<bool>]
        #Option     "ignoreconnector"           # [<str>]
        #Option     "forcereduced"              # [<bool>]
        #Option     "forcedpi"                  # <i>
        #Option     "useconfiguredmonitor"      # [<bool>]
        #Option     "HPD"                       # <str>
        #Option     "NoRandr"                   # [<bool>]
        #Option     "RRUseXF86Edid"             # [<bool>]
        #Option     "RROutputOrder"             # [<str>]
        #Option     "TVMode"                    # [<str>]
        Identifier  "Card0"
        Driver      "radeonhd"
        VendorName  "ATI Technologies Inc"
        BoardName   "Unknown Board"
        BusID       "PCI:2:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "Default Screen"
        Device     "Card0"
        DefaultDepth 24
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     24
                #Big Virtual Screen
        EndSubSection
EndSection

Is this right? because it isn't working for me.. do I have to install Xrand, I know I'm missing something here:S
 
# xrandr
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

Can't open display :0

$ xrandr -q
xrandr: Output TV_7PIN_DIN is not disconnected but has no modes

Yea I have no idea how to get this to work
 
You need to be more descriptive than "isn't working", first of all.

Second, only run xrandr as the user logged into X, not as root.

Finally, if you are continuing to have problems, show us your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file and the output of 'xrandr' as a regular user.
 
Ok xorg.conf as it sits:
Code: 
Section "ServerLayout"
	Identifier     "My Configuration"
	Screen         "Default Screen"
	InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
	InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
	RgbPath      "/usr/local/share/X11/rgb"
	ModulePath   "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"
	FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
	FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"
	FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF"
	FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
	FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
	FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
	Load  "GLcore"
	Load  "dbe"
	Load  "dri"
	Load  "extmod"
	Load  "glx"
	Load  "record"
	Load  "xtrap"
	Load  "freetype"
	Load  "type1"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier  "Keyboard0"
	Driver      "kbd"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier  "Mouse0"
	Driver      "mouse"
	Option	    "Protocol" "auto"
	Option	    "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
	Option	    "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier   "DELL"
	DisplaySize  312 234
	Modeline "1152x864_74.80" 104.00  1152 1224 1344 1536  864 867 871 905 -hsync +vsync
	Option "PreferredMode" "1280x1024_74.80"
EndSection

Section "Device"
        ### Available Driver options are:-
        ### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
        ### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
        ### [arg]: arg optional
	Option     "Ignore" "true"
        #Option     "NoAccel"            	# [<bool>]
        Option     "AccelMethod" "EXA"       	# [<str>]
        #Option     "offscreensize"      	# [<str>]
        #Option     "SWcursor"           	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "ignoreconnector"    	# [<str>]
        #Option     "forcereduced"       	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "forcedpi"           	# <i>
        #Option     "useconfiguredmonitor" 	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "HPD"                	# <str>
        #Option     "NoRandr"            	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "RRUseXF86Edid"      	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "RROutputOrder"      	# [<str>]
        #Option     "TVMode"             	# [<str>]
	Identifier  "Card0"
	Driver      "radeonhd"
	VendorName  "ATI Technologies Inc"
	BoardName   "Unknown Board"
	BusID       "PCI:2:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier "Default Screen"
	Device     "Card0"
	DefaultDepth 24
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth     24
		#Big Virtual Screen
	EndSubSection
EndSection

when I run xrandr as logged user I get this:
Code: 
$ xrandr
xrandr: Output TV_7PIN_DIN is not disconnected but has no modes

I've attached the xorg log file. and I've noticed my screen flickering now like when I open KRandRTray, or run xrandr, is that normal?
 

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HEY HEY!!!! I did some extra research, and looked through the entire Xorg.0.log, and refined my Xorg.conf and got it working for 1152x864 @ 60Hz Problem was my outputs. I have to have both outputs listed or maybe just the VGA but just the DVI output wasn't working... but it says both are connected so Im assuming I do need both.

Code: 
	Option     "Monitor-DVI-I_1/digital" "DELL"
	Option     "Monitor-VGA_1/DAC_A" "DELL"

so now my screen is the right res, now how do I make it fill the entire monitor window.. Do I have to adjust the montior size? because that was the size that my xorg.0.log file gave me for the monitor. Im also gunna see if I can get 1280x1024 running @ atleast 60Hz.. maybe 2 choppy but its worth a try.

One last thing.. I can also get my TV working in the same fashion correct? make a monitor section for my TV then output to the TV aswell?
 
The "radeonhd" driver is not yet ready for prime time, in my opinion. Maybe in a couple of years, but not now. Your card is supported with the "radeon" driver, so give it a try instead.
 
whats the difference between the radeon and radeonHD drivers?
will it make a difference in running kde4 ?
Or compiz-fusion??
 
"radeon" driver is the longstanding open source driver for Radeon cards. It covers R100 through R500 chipsets (7200 through X1900) with 2D and 3D support. It has 2D only support for newer R600 and R700 cards.

radeonhd covers R500 through R700 chipsets, but only hardware acceleration for R500 chipsets. It's still fairly new, and quite buggy.

Both drivers are Open Source, and both have the benefit of ATI releasing specs. I think the radeon driver has more people working on it, however.

Note that R600 and R700 chipsets are poorly supported on both. Unfortunately your card is an RV610, so you won't get 3D or hardware accelerated 2D. But the radeon driver may still be better than the radeonhd driver. Definitely you should be able to get full resolution.
 
Ok so I'll give the radeon a try. but will this card with that driver handle compiz-fusion/kde3.5 or just kde 4.1??

or would I have to switch to the intel card??
 
Your radeon card does not yet support 3D acceleration with any of the open source drivers, either under linux or freebsd.
 
so would I be better off using the onboard intel card? because I hear it has both 2D and 3d acceleration??
 
Correct. Hopefully the driver for your card will be on par with the driver for r500 cards in the next few months, and then ported to FreeBSD.

Adam
 
Ok, So if I use the onboard intel card, should I use the i810 driver or the Intel Driver?

And, Will I have to enable anything special for compiz-fusion and/or kde4.1 to run properly?? (like the option for EXA on the radeonhd)

Lastly,

adamk said:
Correct. Hopefully the driver for your card will be on par with the driver for r500 cards in the next few months, and then ported to FreeBSD.

Adam
Click to expand...

Do you mean that hopefully the radeon/radeonhd driver will be on par with the intel driver? or the radeon verse the radeonhd? And if that is the case, neither run 3d (right?) so I'll still need to wait until they do to run compiz-fusion or kde4.1 with it?? Right?
 
I would recommend the intel driver.

And what I said was that in the next few months, the 3D driver for the r600/r700 cards (like the one you have) will hopefully be on par with the driver for r500 cards (like an x1950), which currently have 3D support.

Adam
 
I see. I see. So, If I understand everything correctly, the radeon driver had 2D and 3D for older radeon cards but not for mine :p and the radeonHD has 2D but no 3D for any (or 3D for older cards). But thanks to ati releasing the specs info, both should end up with 3D support for my card, hopefully in the next few months or so?

I'll give the intel driver ago again, and see how it does. It should run compiz-fusion and/or kde4.1 right? even compiz-fusion would be nice.. and I'll wait patiently for the radeon/radeonHD drivers to have the 3D support I need.
 
radeon and radeonhd are 2D only drivers. radeonhd supports r500 and newer GPUs. radeon supports r100 and newer GPUs. Mesa supports 3D acceleration on all r100 through r500 GPUs, whether you are using the radeon or radeonhd driver.

And, yes, Mesa should support 3D acceleration on r600 and r700 GPUs in the next few months, hopefully.

Adam
 
whats Mesa ?

Im gunna install compiz-fusion tonight, do I need to now anything special like for the Intel Driver because I checked this article quick "http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/compiz-fusion/index.html" and it didn't say anything about the Intel or ati driver, only the Nvida driver.
 
Mesa is an open source OpenGL implementation. It provides 3D acceleration for ATI, intel, matrox, sis, and via GPUs. http://mesa3d.org/

Assuming you are successfully using the intel driver (and you shouldn't need to do anything other than switch to the intel driver in your xorg.conf file), you should be able to start compiz with these commands:

$ LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 compiz --replace --ignore-desktop-hints ccp &
$ emerald --replace &
 
awesome!! and thanks for the link. do you by chance have a link for the radeon and/or radeonHD developement pages? so I can keep an eye out for the update I need.
 
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