25 Gbps home internet service launching in Japan

Home Internet at 3 Gbit/s (symmetrical) through fibre. Honking huge provider modem that does nothing than accept data from a SFP+ GPON and send it to my (OPNsense) router as 10GBit-T. From there, I have a 10-port ZyXEL 10/5/2.5 Gbit/s switch connected, which in turn connects an Aruba 24-port Gigabit switch through SFP+ DAC for anything else. The Aruba is too big but I got it for free, so no complaints!

The OPNsense also connects my DMZ and LTE modem backup connection (both Gigabit).

While 25 Gbit/s sounds great I am still scratching my head where the application is in Home Internet, at least for now and the next five years or so.
 
Crivens said:
And what if the other endpoint does not support these speeds? I'm currently at a 1Gb fibre and don't get more than 45MB/sec during a PKG upgrade. So, what would I get from upgrading? Other than upgraded bills, ofc.
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Even downloading Steam games does not saturate 1 Gb/s for me.

The only thing that maxes out that I can think of right now is ollama when downloading LLMs. Those AI crazies have too much money and bandwidth.
 
I have not seen a single connection exceeding 1 GBit/s. But here is the clue: we are four adults living in the same home using Internet for work and many other purposes. Total load on the line was a record high of roughly 2 Gbit/s. Still a lot of headroom.
 
LibreQuest said:
I have a gig up and a gig down here in Northern Oklahoma, USA.
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That's nice. I'm hoping my ISP will eventually bump up asymmetric link to a symmetric one.
I should upgrade my RB951G-2HnD router though. True, it's not yet bottleneck in my setup, but.. I was not able to find new device that I'd be happy with (I guess I want too many features from one passive device).

I was eyeing new equipment for my home LAB - wanted to bump up to 10Gbps with 2.5Gpbs as "backup" (in the eyes of multipath /alua/). But recent crazy jump of RAM/disks prices made my mind for me.
 
I've recently started using a broken phone as a router via a USB tether. I currently get around 12Mbps which is fine for me at the moment. I guess it would be faster if my phone was 5G, but I only pay around $1 per month for 400GB so mustn't complain too much
 
200Mbps fiber. I can get 8Gbps fiber but I see absolutely zero reason to do so. The ISP will probably pull it up to 1Gbps at some point, which is also what my LAN is wired for. More than enough, especially knowing that the network is only getting more overbooked rather than delivering real bandwidth increases. ISP core networks aren't really going faster than 1.6Tbs these days, and that's already extremely cutting edge (400Gbps is a lot more realistic on the ground right now). You can of course sell thousands of those 25Gbps plans, counting on the fact that nobody is really going to use them. I prefer to skip expensive and power-hungry equipment for no benefit.
 
Actually, to save money, we lowered our speed. I don't remember what it was and I'm not even sure what it officially is now, but did a quick speed test and it was 554 Mbs download, much slower upload, but this is Spectrum in NYC. As I've often said in various posts here, even FreeBSD wireless speed on some cards, where it's about 2 MB over the LAN, is plenty fast enough for youtube videos to play smoothly. My wife watches a lot of Netflix, and has never noticed any problem with speed, as well as a lot of Youtube. For our needs, it's really plenty. I've found that downloading a fairly large file, say a Linux live ISO from the Internet, may take a minute and change, but I don't do that enough to really care. On the other hand, as I write this I think of the (in)famous Bill Gates quote that 640k of memory should be enough for everyone.
 
scottro said:
On the other hand, as I write this I think of the (in)famous Bill Gates quote that 640k of memory should be enough for everyone.
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Valid, to a point. As with RAM, there's a point of rapidly diminishing returns in network bandwidth. Let's say a household of 4 can stream 8K Netfilx over a 1Gbps internet pipe. For a big household of 8 you'd need 2Gbps so let's grant the world that. Sure there are even larger families, but the chances that let's say 12 people all stream 8K Netflix for themselves at the same time are slim. So let's be very generous and give the family 4Gbps symmetrical bandwidth. That fits every conceivable realtime bandwidth requirement we have right now for a household. It really _really_ does. Why anyone would want 25Gbps, a factor bloody 6 too high to be useful, is completely beyond me even in a scenario where Netflix goes 100% VR. The equipment to run 25Gbps is strictly enterprise-grade these days. You really do not *want* a 25Gbps-capable router and switching infrastructure in your appartment unless your hearing isn't very good and you want it to replace your heating system as well. Forget the fiddly, expensive optics and fiber cabling. I'd really like to see the household that proves me wrong and has 10 devices regularly pumping 2.5Gbps full throttle over the internet at the same time.
 
Just a quick question which someone may be able to enlighten me about...

If all this streaming passes through a common server which haswww/squid installed, will any of the streamed films be cached?
 
balanga said:
Just a quick question which someone may be able to enlighten me about...

If all this streaming passes through a common server which haswww/squid installed, will any of the streamed films be cached?
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Not likely. A film is too large to fit into a cache bucket for Squid, so it won't be stored. The cache is generally meant for things like images, a few megabytes at the most. Maybe you could tweak Squid to cache more, but you'll be shoehorning Squid into a role that it's not made for.

It's also very unlikely that the URL for the film will be identical every time your streaming client accesses it. Things like tokens and the like will be passed between you and the server to preserve DRM, your user session and the like. These things tend to bust the cacheability of resources.
 
loveydovey said:
md-eksperiment.org

NTT East Rolls Out 25 Gbps Fiber Internet for Tokyo Households

NTT East announces the upcoming launch of Flet Hikari 25G, Japan's fastest FTTH home internet service offering speeds up to 25 Gbps starting March 31.
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What's your home internet speed.
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100Mbps down/10Mbps up; enough for several TVs live streaming 720p+, web browsing, and hosting 6 websites :p

Going from 300KB/s DSL to 2MB/s Cable was a huge upgrade! I got free increases over the years that I notice with random speed tests, but I'm not really sure what I'd do with more speed currently.
 
balanga said:
I've recently started using a broken phone as a router via a USB tether. I currently get around 12Mbps which is fine for me at the moment. I guess it would be faster if my phone was 5G, but I only pay around $1 per month for 400GB so mustn't complain too much
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When I connect using a 5G phone I get 28Mbps which is significantly faster, so I could do with getting a dedicated used cheap 5G phone just as a gateway for my home network.

Any recommendations?
 
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