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My friend has a very strong hatred for FreeBSD. The reason he gives me is that OS just a copy cat and didn't invented anything. So he's not respect such OS and foretell that when there is nothing left for that copy cat to copy, it will just die because of shooting itself on the foot. Then he gives me examples. All of the selling feature of that OS, is taken somewhere else:
I have no idea about these points but I'm fine with FreeBSD. What I need is a working browser so I could watch youtube and have up to date toolchains so I could do development occasionally. FreeBSD served all of that needs well. But I have to agree with him about this point: most of the new ideas come from Linux [I'm not said anything about innovations or selling points so far.]
e.g: Does someone in the FreeBSD community has ever come up with an idea like PuppyLinux? Yes, it's just a toy. I know. But the ideas of it is at least cool! Recently, I found a former Puppy based distro, Fatdog64. And I loved the idea of it and the way it customized the system. I think FreeBSD should definitely need more derivatives implementing many new ideas like this!
Jails: isn't it just poor quality clone of Solaris zones?
ZFS: of course a Solaris thing, now even have to keep it alive thanks for the mercy of the ZFS On Linux project!
Bhyve: poor quality clone of Linux KVM, and sucks.
Ports: source based Linux distros are not rare, but the fact is they [FreeBSD] created that ports system because they have no real package maintainers like Linux! Everything is keep by the mercy of those ports maintainers, and when the ports is unmaintained and no one step up to take over it, the ports is just deleted! How stupid! On Linux, we have real package maintainers, take care of hundreds of packages, and maintaining it well, so none is broken or outdated! Even if it [FreeBSD] is the first one to implemented the idea (the ports system), it's not necessary to be the leading of the game. Remember, first in, last out. The Gentoo ports system is much more sophisticated!
PKGNG: poor quality clone of Solaris's pkg, come very late in the game and plagiarize many ideas from the Linux counterparts. But it doesn't matter. The way they [FreeBSD] maintaining packages is broken the same way as they maintaining their ports tree! It's "broken by design". Remember that they invented that term to prefer to BTRFS, but BTRFS is now up and kicking. That term should more applicable to them! In no way on Linux we observed users go to the forum and whining about their favorite packages was deleted for no reasons as much as on that OS. Not only because the ports is now unmaintained but also because the packages simply didn't build for them [FreeBSD} thus it's not available for the users, too. The reason is simple. On Linux, we have previous packages version to fall back. On that OS, the users are just doomed! The only thing they can do is switch to an outdated repo or waiting for the mercy of the ports maintainers and the miracle to make the packages build for them [FreeBSD] thus available to us [the users]. Another stupid one is base vs ports! On Linux, we always have the same version of OpenSSL. In no way we have to care about problems arise when the OpenSSL in base is mismatch with the OpenSSL required on ports! And the most ridiculous is they [FreeBSD] asked the users to upgrade to new OS version only because the ports expect the newer OpenSSL that only available on newer OS version! That's how LTS support on that OS works! Oops, almost forgot, that OS has no LTS release whatsoever.
ZFS: of course a Solaris thing, now even have to keep it alive thanks for the mercy of the ZFS On Linux project!
Bhyve: poor quality clone of Linux KVM, and sucks.
Ports: source based Linux distros are not rare, but the fact is they [FreeBSD] created that ports system because they have no real package maintainers like Linux! Everything is keep by the mercy of those ports maintainers, and when the ports is unmaintained and no one step up to take over it, the ports is just deleted! How stupid! On Linux, we have real package maintainers, take care of hundreds of packages, and maintaining it well, so none is broken or outdated! Even if it [FreeBSD] is the first one to implemented the idea (the ports system), it's not necessary to be the leading of the game. Remember, first in, last out. The Gentoo ports system is much more sophisticated!
PKGNG: poor quality clone of Solaris's pkg, come very late in the game and plagiarize many ideas from the Linux counterparts. But it doesn't matter. The way they [FreeBSD] maintaining packages is broken the same way as they maintaining their ports tree! It's "broken by design". Remember that they invented that term to prefer to BTRFS, but BTRFS is now up and kicking. That term should more applicable to them! In no way on Linux we observed users go to the forum and whining about their favorite packages was deleted for no reasons as much as on that OS. Not only because the ports is now unmaintained but also because the packages simply didn't build for them [FreeBSD} thus it's not available for the users, too. The reason is simple. On Linux, we have previous packages version to fall back. On that OS, the users are just doomed! The only thing they can do is switch to an outdated repo or waiting for the mercy of the ports maintainers and the miracle to make the packages build for them [FreeBSD] thus available to us [the users]. Another stupid one is base vs ports! On Linux, we always have the same version of OpenSSL. In no way we have to care about problems arise when the OpenSSL in base is mismatch with the OpenSSL required on ports! And the most ridiculous is they [FreeBSD] asked the users to upgrade to new OS version only because the ports expect the newer OpenSSL that only available on newer OS version! That's how LTS support on that OS works! Oops, almost forgot, that OS has no LTS release whatsoever.
I have no idea about these points but I'm fine with FreeBSD. What I need is a working browser so I could watch youtube and have up to date toolchains so I could do development occasionally. FreeBSD served all of that needs well. But I have to agree with him about this point: most of the new ideas come from Linux [I'm not said anything about innovations or selling points so far.]
e.g: Does someone in the FreeBSD community has ever come up with an idea like PuppyLinux? Yes, it's just a toy. I know. But the ideas of it is at least cool! Recently, I found a former Puppy based distro, Fatdog64. And I loved the idea of it and the way it customized the system. I think FreeBSD should definitely need more derivatives implementing many new ideas like this!