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    kpedersen replied to the thread Rust in the FreeBSD kernel.
    I do like the "bolt on a basic C frontend" idea. It was my option 1 because it would be easier than writing an entire OS. It seems heavy but I honestly think that would be a good approach for Rust. Especially since it is already built on LLVM...
  • cracauer@
    cracauer@ replied to the thread Rust in the FreeBSD kernel.
    The Common Lisp compiler Clasp interfaces to C and some C++ by using the LLVM and Clang libraries, aka it properly parses the header files and gets structs and function signatures out of that. In other words, it drags most of a compiler around...
  • K
    Its been said a few times here before. Smart phones are the least secure devices that you can use. I would highly recommend separating your important data from them.
  • Espionage724
    Espionage724 replied to the thread Rust in the FreeBSD kernel.
    I'd do it willingly :p
  • K
    kpedersen replied to the thread Rust in the FreeBSD kernel.
    Sadly not. Bindings generators (including SWIG that came before it) can't quite do the full job. Thats why you have many, many bindings in crates.io such as for SDL2. You have the *-sys crates which are the thin unsafe bindings (some partially...
  • Espionage724
    I agree. At the point you are running untrusted, malicious software on your system, you have a personal issue related to your tech-savvyness. No packaging system can prevent malware from overtaking a system.
  • Espionage724
    Yeah, exactly all the abstraction I'm looking to avoid with an OS running apps! :p I'm thinking it's solving issues of security that could be better-solved with user-side education, or delegated elsewhere (Fedora with SELinux-default apparently...
  • Espionage724
    Espionage724 reacted to Zare's post in the thread FreeBSD development seems lost with Thanks Thanks.
    I for one hate Flatpaks, snaps and all sorts of that cuisine on Linux. Why can't you just give me a fat binary?
  • Espionage724
    THIS IS NOT ABOUT RUST IN FREEBSD. IT IS ABOUT RUST IN GENERAL. I AM NOT CLAIMING THAT RUST IS ENTERING FREEBSD. THIS IS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE LANGUAGE, ITS INTENDED USE, AND MEMORY-SAFETY AS A CONCEPT. What is the purpose of Rust? I mean it is...
  • Espionage724
    I got slightly faster server start-up times with Parallel vs Serial (anything else was worst Java 21), and significantly better average/max FPS on a JOGL game with Serial vs Parallel. Java's fun to tweak for :p
  • cracauer@
    Rust, like modern C++, is a much higher level language than C. The ability to build libraries in C is very limited by a lack of generic programming. Just think of quicksort and binary search in C. The library has them, but the interface is a joke...
  • K
    kpedersen replied to the thread Rust in the FreeBSD kernel.
    Unfortunately not. As mentioned earlier, the issue with language bindings leading to considerable technical debt is already well explored (a very verbose paper but actually covers the issue well, including multiple different approaches to...
  • Crivens
    Crivens replied to the thread Rust in the FreeBSD kernel.
    You mean, after firing all those with a clue? Those should immediately form a new company and rent out engineering consultants with a "market oriented and fair" rate. You know, the kind that would make McKinney blush? That would be karma.
  • Crivens
    Crivens replied to the thread Rust in the FreeBSD kernel.
    They did that in python iirc. And the legal eagle (tweed stuffed lawyer !!) did a vid telling them that the 120year olds are due to some RFC that deals with unknown birthdays.
  • Zare
    Zare reacted to Beastie7's post in the thread Rust in the FreeBSD kernel with Thanks Thanks.
    I like how people just casually glanced over these comments. This is a potential serious issue that will need to be addressed at some point. How are we going to deal with this? Also, has anyone even assessed whether GPU vendors even want to work...
  • Zare
    Zare reacted to blackbird9's post in the thread Rust in the FreeBSD kernel with Thanks Thanks.
    https://thecodinglove.com/elon-musk-wants-to-rewrite-all-the-cobol-code-behind-u-s-social-security-in-just-a-few-months Tens of millions of lines of cobol, developed over decades of work. What could possibly go wrong? 😂 They wrote a GUI for a...
  • K
    kpedersen reacted to Zare's post in the thread FreeBSD development seems lost with Like Like.
    I for one hate Flatpaks, snaps and all sorts of that cuisine on Linux. Why can't you just give me a fat binary?
  • Zare
    Zare replied to the thread FreeBSD development seems lost.
    I for one hate Flatpaks, snaps and all sorts of that cuisine on Linux. Why can't you just give me a fat binary?
  • Zare
    Android internet banking applications security is based on X.509, at least that is the case for major European banks. My m-banking application requires physical activation at the bank. You download the application normally from the store...
  • elgrande
    Following 286592 (that Andriy alerted us to a few days ago) is proving fruitful - just today, the devs have tested a patch for x11/sddm that seems to resolve that Ctrl-C bug. At this point, I think it's a matter of seeing when it makes it into...
  • Zare
    I lean towards what VladiBG said - more likely you entered your data to a phising site by accident. Relatively easy to pull off and with suprisingly good results. This happened to my gf's friend 2 weeks ago or so - she was busy with her kids...
  • SirDice
    SirDice replied to the thread Cursor jumps while writing.
    Everything after the exec mate-session never gets executed. Move that line to the end. Ah, already noticed. Yes, there seems to be some common confusion as to what exec actually does. The entire current process (the shell that's executing the...
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    fmc000 reacted to vermaden's post in the thread Brave New PKGBASE World with Thanks Thanks.
    Original article here. Consider this when replying. FreeBSD, The FreeBSD Foundation, and The FreeBSD Forums are not associated with the content of this article.
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    scottro reacted to vermaden's post in the thread The FreeBSD Forums: official, or not? with Like Like.
    Yep. More or less like that. Check these at my 'EXTERNAL' tab - https://vermaden.wordpress.com/external/ 2005-2008 @ bsdforums.org – Learning FreeBSD 2008/04 @ daemonforums.org – DaemonForums ... also a screenshot of the (now gone)...
  • Crivens
    Crivens replied to the thread Rust in the FreeBSD kernel.
    As so often, it was done without understanding the scope, in any way...
  • SirDice
    SirDice replied to the thread direct jail 2 jail networking.
    Yes, it was just to verify the jails are indeed actually connected to the bridge. epair4b and epair100a have the same MAC address.
  • K
    kpedersen reacted to blackbird9's post in the thread Rust in the FreeBSD kernel with Like Like.
    I had a quick look at indeed.co.uk last night. I only found one job specifically asking for rust, and one more that mentioned they wanted people who knew "languages like rust and go". I think the adoption in the US must be quite a lot wider...
  • D
    Yep. More or less like that. Check these at my 'EXTERNAL' tab - https://vermaden.wordpress.com/external/ 2005-2008 @ bsdforums.org – Learning FreeBSD 2008/04 @ daemonforums.org – DaemonForums ... also a screenshot of the (now gone)...
  • K
    kpedersen replied to the thread Rust in the FreeBSD kernel.
    Indeed. If they do solve them, then people will update their criticisms of Rust (or likely its successor language). So far I can see them solved in two ways: 1) Bolt on a tiny C frontend (a little bit like cgo but with full interop). 2) Rust all...
  • robroy
    robroy reacted to vermaden's post in the thread Brave New PKGBASE World with Thanks Thanks.
    Original article here. Consider this when replying. FreeBSD, The FreeBSD Foundation, and The FreeBSD Forums are not associated with the content of this article.
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    Michael-O replied to the thread HPE Gen11 hardware support?.
    Seriously? What was the error? It is strange that straight installation did not work.
  • K
    kpedersen replied to the thread Rust in the FreeBSD kernel.
    Its more that the "special" aspects of it, are greatly undermined by the disadvantages of it. Practicality and pragmatism is way more critical than imagination. C++ developers in particular are already quite familiar with Rust's RAII mechanisms...
  • K
    I remember the BSDForums.org! It got a little overrun with spam towards the end. I was very happy to find out that FreeBSD then started to host their own instead. Much of the community did carry over too.
  • K
    Yep. More or less like that. Check these at my 'EXTERNAL' tab - https://vermaden.wordpress.com/external/ 2005-2008 @ bsdforums.org – Learning FreeBSD 2008/04 @ daemonforums.org – DaemonForums ... also a screenshot of the (now gone)...
  • K
    kpedersen replied to the thread Rust in the FreeBSD kernel.
    It conflicts with a few coding standards (i.e some modules in DO-178C). These will take decades to change for one. UK specific, DEF STAN 00-55 (or 00-56?) it is recommended to have multiple "independent" and "diverse" vendor toolchains to avoid...
  • cracauer@
    cracauer@ replied to the thread Brave New PKGBASE World.
    Jeez, that's a handful.
  • vermaden
    scottro That's pretty close. I remember vermaden started at the original forum a month or two after I did. I don't remember who else is here now from back then. Were you there then? What a zoo that became.
  • vermaden
    Yep. More or less like that. Check these at my 'EXTERNAL' tab - https://vermaden.wordpress.com/external/ 2005-2008 @ bsdforums.org – Learning FreeBSD 2008/04 @ daemonforums.org – DaemonForums ... also a screenshot of the (now gone)...
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  • _martin
    They don't need to emulate that. You provided them id/password. They can send that info to the actual bank (as if you were logging to actual bank), wait for you to send the token back to them and go from there.
  • cracauer@
    cracauer@ replied to the thread Rust in the FreeBSD kernel.
    I have not seen that white house advice being taken seriously, not even in government agencies. These agencies would propably have the hardest time switching languages or having mixed-language systems. But Musk's boys can re-write the social...
  • cracauer@
    cracauer@ replied to the thread Rust in the FreeBSD kernel.
    Well, C is a very light language that misses many abstractions, including zero-cost abstractions that languages like Rust and modern C++ have. Just as an example, the C library has a quicksort and a binary search, but neither are type-safe, they...
  • D
    As the title of the article says, "urges" is the word but they can urge all they want and we can still use whatever we feel like.
  • vermaden
    Original article here. Consider this when replying. FreeBSD, The FreeBSD Foundation, and The FreeBSD Forums are not associated with the content of this article.
  • K
    kpedersen reacted to blackbird9's post in the thread Rust in the FreeBSD kernel with Like Like.
    "If you are going to commit to a feat of engineering like a GPU driver, adding a trendy new language is a good incentive, making it all exciting again. Open-source is all about playing around and having fun." Yes, that's one I thoroughly approve...
  • Zare
    This issue is much simpler than it looks. Imagine I now post here plans to enrich uranium, build atom bomb, etc. Imagine no moderator takes my post down. Imagine nobody responds to abuse contacts for the domain. Police will come knocking on...
  • K
    kpedersen replied to the thread Rust in the FreeBSD kernel.
    Bindings / abstractions are a very well understood issue since the 70s. It does indeed threaten a project by drowning it in technical debt. Since Linux started with Rust a couple of years ago, they are *still* writing the bindings layers. This...
  • SirDice
    Tried net/guacamole-server some time ago, got it to work but was a bit finicky to set up. It can also provide HTML5 access to RDP and even SSH. Maybe a bit overkill, but it might work for you. https://guacamole.incubator.apache.org/
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    fmc000 replied to the thread Rust in the FreeBSD kernel.
    That was not the point. Greg KH has stated that Rust was added to the Linux kernel because of memory safety with the idea that devs can avoid an entire category of bugs just using a different language.
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    sprock replied to the thread MPI through a firewall.
    Thanks for your reply. On hostA: pass in log proto { tcp udp } to port {10000:10010} pass out log proto { tcp udp } to port {10000:10010} hostB has pf disabled for testing.
  • D
    At one time, StackOverflow developed some pdf files that purported to teach you subjects based on the valued questions and answers on SO. I haven't looked at them in a long time but I didn't think they worked out very well but it would be...
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