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Debian pushes development of kFreeBSD port

Discussion in 'General' started by vivek, Oct 7, 2009.

  1. vivek

    vivek New Member

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    Quoting from the Debian GNU/Linux page:
    http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20091007

    Wow so Linux user will get Jails and other cool FreeBSD features. What do you think?
     
  2. DutchDaemon

    DutchDaemon Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    I think that the BSD license is better for GNU/Linux than the GPL license is for BSD ;)
     
  3. fonz

    fonz Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Not that I'm a big fan of Debian, but I do think it'll be interesting to see how this works out.

    Alphons
     
  4. vivek

    vivek New Member

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    I forgot about ZFS :e You can now have it on Linux without using 3rd party stuff.
     
  5. Antti

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    That would not be a Linux, it's GNU/kFreeBSD.
     
  6. SirDice

    SirDice Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    I'm not so sure about that. As far as I've been able to tell it's only the kernel. The rest of the system (userland binaries) is GNU.

    http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/
     
  7. aragon

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    I wonder about libc?

    And I wonder if it runs linux binaries, or FreeBSD binaries...
     
  8. SirDice

    SirDice Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    They're probably the same source but compiled for the FreeBSD kernel. The page I referred to talks about glibc which is basically the GNU version of our libc.

    As I understood it the way an API is called is slightly different between linux and freebsd. So code has to be specifically compiled for a certain kernel.
     
  9. Eponasoft

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    Now that just sounds perverse.:x
     
  10. CodeBlock

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    Agreed... These types of projects I find a waste.. If you like BSD use BSD.. If you don't then stick with what you like. I see no point in trying to port BSD's goodies over to Linux. If you like, for example, ports, then use BSD.

    Same things with Gentoo/FreeBSD... just stupid, in my opinion.
     
  11. phoenix

    phoenix Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Heh, if you mis-pronounce it, it comes out "nuke freebsd".
     
  12. rghq

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    It's just a FreeBSD Kernel with a GNU userland around and all it's disadvantages.
    Dunno but one of the advantages of BSD is things come from one source + the ports as 3rd party applications.

    Already tried it in a VM still I prefer FreeBSD
     
  13. dennylin93

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    This looks interesting, although I think I'll still stick to FreeBSD.
     
  14. hansivers

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    UPDATE
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    ZFS is now available in Debian/kFreeBSD, Sid (unstable) :

    http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2010/09/#7
     
  15. UNIXgod

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    I realize the k if for kernel or kde. But every time I see that I think kthxbye!
     
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    me 2!
     
  18. vertexSymphony

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    It's not Linux (that's only the kernel), but that's just GNU userland + FreeBSD Kernel ...
    this is interesting, it remembers me to nexenta ... comparing it to FreeBSD is dummy, because there you have some GNU/Debian goodies that simplifies management (like apt), sounds interesting ... (It may be a good thing for people more used to Debian style, that wants to have cool stuff from FreeBSD like ZFS and Jails "for free")

    But, as a user already said : I personally prefer FreeBSD anyways
     
  19. tty3

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    About this fm kFreeBSD, is a stupid
    Be a simply, use freebsd
     
  20. DutchDaemon

    DutchDaemon Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    tty3, can you look into different translation software / websites? Your posts are sometimes quite hard to understand (and I'm being friendly).
     
  21. tty3

    tty3 New Member

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    Exist private messages...
     
  22. Dereckson

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    According the Debian GNU/kFreeBSD why, there is a jails and (as hansivers have stated) ZFS support.

    So the advantages for Debian people could be to have the system they want (ie their GNU userland) with a centralized /dev, ZFS and pf support.

    UNIXgod, according this FAQ, k is for kernel.
     
  23. saxon3049

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    Do you think this could be a way for the serious debian people to move away from what debain has kinda become i.e. ubuntu? I only ask this as when I talk to a serious debian user they always have this pained look on there face when ever you mention ubuntu if not followed immediately with the words " is a dog's dinner".
     
  24. ChalkBored

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    Not really, as soon as the bugs are worked out of the process, someone will inevitably make an Ubuntu version.
     
  25. PetrusValidus

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    Interesting question. I use Debian primarily, coming from Ubuntu and Mandriva. While the latter is built from Debian Unstable it lacks the quality that Debian Proper is known for. For some reason or another some Debian users dislike (or even hate) Ubuntu. I don't get that mindset. Ubuntu is for people new to Linux, most likely coming from Windows. One may be based on the other but they have completely different missions and reasons for existence.

    I like FreeBSD and I think it's a great OS but I don't have a pressing need for it right now. Would I be interested in trying kFreeBSD? Sure. I'd have a familiar user environment but with the features, stability, and quality of the FreeBSD kernel.