[Solved] kde4-meta package

noveou · #1 November 5th, 2009, 20:20

Well, I was trying to install this OS, but I got problems.

I don't want a meta package, I am refering to kde4. It should have sth like kdebase-startkde(which is a basic installation), kdebase-meta(which is a middle populated installation with basic applications).

Going /usr/ports/x11/kde4 makes install things you "do not" need, a clear example is bindings,What do I need bindings for?

Id love to install freebsd, because It is the purist OS I have ever heard of, but if it doenst have this forget it.

Developers should think of it for next stable 8.

Sorry

**DutchDaemon** · #2 November 5th, 2009, 20:37

What exactly eludes you in the concept of 3rd-party applications, i.e. the ports tree?

None of them are part of the OS, nor do FreeBSD developers have anything to do with applications in the ports tree, like KDE (why do you think it's a purist OS -- that's why: it keeps the OS and applications entirely separate). You posted this in the Base System category, instead of in the Ports category, which shows you don't understand the fundamental difference between the two.

KDE has nothing to do with FreeBSD, but it can run on it because it's ported over, that's all.

And I think 'make config' (in the meta port, and probably in a lot of its constituent ports) gives you plenty of choice as to what to install and what to skip.

**phoenix** · #3 November 5th, 2009, 21:02

What you want is already there:

Code:

# cd /usr/ports/x11/kde4
# make config
<pick only the options you want>
# make install clean

Doesn't get much simpler than that.

LateNiteTV · #4 November 5th, 2009, 22:25

do you absolutely need kde?
have you looked at /usr/ports/x11-wm?

noveou · #5 November 9th, 2009, 09:12

Well make config is the same as make install clean.

If you wanna catch more users this should be better ported.

Most things in FreeBSD are great, but you know that war is about graphical environment at present.

graudeejs · #6 November 9th, 2009, 10:26

You are wrong.
It's all about choice....

**DutchDaemon** · #7 November 9th, 2009, 12:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by noveou

Well make config is the same as make install clean.

No, it's not, unless you run 'make install clean rmconfig' every time.

And, probably to a majority of FreeBSD users still, graphical environments are of zero interest. If one needs them, they're there, and they're highly configurable. But FreeBSD refuses to hold your hand and make decisions for you. It's not some distro.

Dru · #8 November 9th, 2009, 21:36

Come on guys, it should be a real big priority to make KDE 4 work flawlessly on 8.0.....because you know, its not like some people have been using the meta-port of KDE 3 for years, and we really need an almost Windows like desktop environment that works instantly without any problems, so we can draw a large userbase of people who cant distinguish the difference between make install, and make config.

**phoenix** · #9 November 10th, 2009, 05:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by noveou

Most things in FreeBSD are great, but you know that war is about graphical environment at present.

Define "better ported".

You can pick and choose the individual bits manually (after installing the psearch and portmaster ports):

Code:

# psearch kde4
<look at all the kde4 ports>
# portmaster /usr/ports/whatever/whichever-kde4-port

Or, you can use the meta-port to pick and choose what you want:

Code:

# cd /usr/ports/x11/kde4
# make config
# make install clean

Or using portmaster:

Code:

# portmaster x11/kde4

Or, you can use the pre-compiled packages and not worry about it:

Code:

# pkg_add -r kde4

Or, you can install the individual packages:

Code:

# pkg_add -r kdebase4 kdelibs4 kdewhatever4

What more do you need?

**phoenix** · #10 November 10th, 2009, 05:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dru

Come on guys, it should be a real big priority to make KDE 4 work flawlessly on 8.0.....because you know, its not like some people have been using the meta-port of KDE 3 for years, and we really need an almost Windows like desktop environment that works instantly without any problems, so we can draw a large userbase of people who cant distinguish the difference between make install, and make config.

What's not working? Have you put in PRs about them?

And what's so hard about:
# pkg_add -r kde4

Dru · #11 November 10th, 2009, 05:44

Phoenix, ahh that was just a little sarcasm twoards the OP, on my part, sorry about the confusion.

**DutchDaemon** · #12 November 10th, 2009, 11:48

We really need a smiley for that; it took me a second and third read, tbh; well crafted

noveou · #13 November 10th, 2009, 20:00

phoenix

Or, you can install the individual packages:
Code:

Code:

# pkg_add -r kdebase4 kdelibs4 kdewhatever4

You are the guy, that was exactly what I was talking about..

Sigle packages which let you to personalize your installation without having to install unnecessary ones.

Thank you so much.

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