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Pwhheee
November 20th, 2008, 21:05
Any1 got any experiences? I am currently downloading BSD and im just wondering. Does it run okay?

brd@
November 20th, 2008, 21:06
Do you mean in a VM or on the bare metal?

Pwhheee
November 20th, 2008, 21:14
VM, Bare Metal? I dont really know what any of those things are. :P

I have an mini-mac 10.4 OS X, and im installing it right on the harddrive.

ninjaslim
November 20th, 2008, 21:15
FreeBSD runs well in VMWare Fusion, which is what you should use because they have integration tools for FreeBSD, whereas Parallels and VirtualBox don't. VirtualBox has trouble even installing a BSD.

If you mean installing FreeBSD on a Mac, then there is a wiki page on this. According to a friend of mine, it does run well with most features working.

Pwhheee
November 20th, 2008, 21:19
Whats VMWare Fusion? Do i have to have this to install it?

Pwhheee
November 21st, 2008, 07:21
FreeBSD runs well in VMWare Fusion, which is what you should use because they have integration tools for FreeBSD, whereas Parallels and VirtualBox don't. VirtualBox has trouble even installing a BSD.

If you mean installing FreeBSD on a Mac, then there is a wiki page on this. According to a friend of mine, it does run well with most features working.

Okay, i have now bought VMWare Fusion.

So this should be farly easy. I guess.

ninjaslim
November 21st, 2008, 07:29
You could have used VirtualBox. Why did you buy VMWare Fusion?

Pwhheee
November 21st, 2008, 08:14
[/I]You could have used VirtualBox. Why did you buy VMWare Fusion?
Cuz you said it was bad. And OKAY i didnt "buy" it.

I was being a criminal.

Djn
November 22nd, 2008, 13:48
Haha, right. Anyway, ignoring that, I think it might be a good idea to clear up the possibilities:

- You can replace MacOS X with FreeBSD.
- You can install it alongside OS X and chose which one of them you want to boot when you turn on the computer
- You can run an OS X program that emulates a computer (e.g. VMWare) and install FreeBSD inside that.

The first two are the "bare metal"-variants. They're faster, but also more messy if something goes wrong. The last one is easier (since you'll always have OS X running), though in some ways a bit limited.

The "bare metal" name refers to how FreeBSD runs directly on your hardware, as opposed to inside VMWare on top of OS X.

Important detail. Is this a PowerPC mini, or one of the intel ones?

trasz@
November 25th, 2008, 20:21
Two things about running FreeBSD -CURRENT on Parallels 3.0:

1. The disk I/O is _slow_.

2. Timekeeping is completely botched.

ninjaslim
November 26th, 2008, 01:56
I always had bad luck with Parallels.

trasz@
November 27th, 2008, 14:00
Actually, changing the timecounter from TSC to i8254 seems to help somewhat. Just put

kern.timecounter.hardware=i8254

to /etc/sysctl.conf and reboot.